[Update] [Auto] This thread is archived File: more bot strangeness.png (633 KB, 1200x878) 633 KB Dead Internet Theory Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)10:46:22 No.27255405▶>>27255423 >>27255424 >>27255493 >>27255554 >>27255636 >>27256018 >>27257157 >>27257541 >>27257684 >>27257707 >>27258237 >>27258363 Previous thread: >>27247782 → Last thread got overrun with mostly nonsense and off-topic shit as soon as we got near the bump limit. Pic related; possible a bot or a someone deliberately disrupting, stealing my post from a different thread, earlier today, to drive the thread off-topic. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)10:47:50 No.27255412▶ AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >When AAAA haha >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)10:49:26 No.27255423▶>>27255436 >>27255751 >>27255405 (OP) Oh no, you poisoned the OP image with nexpo shit, now this thread is bound to attract 'nexpo incident' vague posters and shills >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)10:50:04 No.27255424▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)10:50:42 No.27255427▶>>27257075 >>27257719 >>27258725 File: dead internet theory.png (425 KB, 2495x1120) 425 KB And if you're just arriving, pic related is the one which kickstarted these threads. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)10:52:11 No.27255436▶ >>27255423 So we'll do what we've been doing and ignore them. People can do what they want, we're not going anywhere and this discussion will continue. The disruptive actors and bots are part of the entire point these threads exist, so it's going to happen regardless. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)10:54:22 No.27255453▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)10:56:25 No.27255467▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:00:06 No.27255483▶>>27255494 >>27260620 One anon started up a text doc to compile information, for those of you who would like to do some reading up. http://meetingwords.com/IVlnVpwRfx And an excerpt: The Problem: Outline the basics of what appears to be happening. There is a large-scale, deliberate effort to manpulate culture and discourse online and in wider culture by utilising a system of bots and paid employees whose job it is to produce content and repsond to content online in order to further the agenda of those they are emplyed by. Already weve seen this in foreign nations influencing elections by manipulating advertising algorithms on social media in order to push specific candidates. As I see it is due to a "positive feedback loop" I Blame facebook and twitter. The internet is a fast way to get info, and info is what moves the mind, and the thing is, the mind likes recognition. When the "likes" were introduced without negative feedback they created a copy-feedback subconcious, they made it so only "positive" opinions be propagated (also accepted), and in it's way negative opinions to be obsolete. Now everyone is too cowardly to have an opinion so they copy others they like, they are more likely to follow trends and say what others said, you can also see it with the paranoia of always wanting to listen to experts. The fast feedback system of the net created a human obsession to be in with trends, getting away from it makes it so you always feel like you are missing out, to play it safe in a trend is more easy as you can copy what already is accepted. In this way, the internet and social media, which was supposed to democratise media by allowing users to create whatever content they wanted, has instead been hijacked by a powerful few. >continued.. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:01:10 No.27255493▶>>27255532 >>27255962 >>27255405 (OP) So if the internet is mostly bots now, what the hell can we do about it? It seems like we're fucked either way because we're just little people in the way of an all powerful amorphous mass >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:01:19 No.27255494▶>>27255522 Continued from >>27255483 Creation of original content is how the internet used to work. Anonymous people were willing to express their opinions and try radical or experimental things. More truly original content, uninfluenced by bots or paid influencers, was created due to anonymity as protection against negative feedback. On the old internet, you could start anew every time you posted something. Now add bots to this. Make it so an opinion be repeated more and more, they are faster than us, so the positive feedback makes is so we copy the bots, and anonymity can't do anything against it because we can't influence the bot like we would a human, this is an easy weapon to manipulate people, so anyone with an agenda can use a bot, is designed in a way compared to how clickbaits are made,most won't read the content, this creates tv-like propaganda where they aren't influenced by the user and that puts bots at a great advantage over any other opinion because it wont change, and we are copying that. I believe google is one of those that makes bots, after all they work like a search engine, where they get the most accepted content first, Is the same as doing an ad. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:04:25 No.27255522▶>>27255532 >>27255494 You don't need to copy paste the text, if Anyone wants to read they can follow the link, no need to spam the thread >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:05:58 No.27255532▶ >>27255493 There is likely nothing we can do about it. I don't think any of us have any delusions about battling and defeating whoever is the cause of it all. My intention, and it seems the intention of the other anons who have been in these threads, is to better understand what's happening, document possible instances of this stuff happening, and be more aware of how severe this "infection" (so to speak) of the internet and the communities of it. >>27255522 It's literally not hurting or "spamming" anything. They can go read the rest if they want, I'm making it easier for a quick introduction/explanation since we don't have a proper first post made up yet. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:08:21 No.27255554▶>>27255565 >>27255405 (OP) The last thread was great until those bots appeared. Looks like if a thread is not reactionary and it gives another point of view or a good idea, it is troublesome. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:10:08 No.27255565▶ >>27255554 It's troublesome alright, you larping faggot t.bot >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:10:12 No.27255566▶>>27255572 >>27255573 By the way, it's worth pointing out that the people/bots who suddenly showed up in the last thread as soon as it got near the bump limit, to talk randomly about the nobody shit and post vaguely quasi-related bullshit, are now gone. Disappeared the moment the thread hit the bump limit, and seem to have vanished entirely now. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:11:30 No.27255572▶ >>27255566 but i'm still here >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:11:33 No.27255573▶>>27255595 >>27255566 They'll be back and in greater numbers >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:15:00 No.27255595▶ File: ill show u schizo.gif (963 KB, 500x213) 963 KB >>27255573 Doesn't bother me. They'll follow the same basic routine every time, it's to be expected. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:18:09 No.27255622▶>>27255638 >>27255641 The internet was murdered by our governments. https://files.catbox.moe/rkpw3z.png They bought or blackmailed all of the content creators, DDOSed any indie sites out of service, took over the schools that used to host wacky student sites, and made it a national security policy that it's illegal "white supremacy" to disagree with this policy. Qatar was running analytics to see who was talking to who so they would know which middlemen to cut out of the internet so that leaders and powerful people would never hear from anyone who disagreed with the Qataris. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:19:48 No.27255636▶>>27255658 >>27255665 >>27255405 (OP) Funny, looking the catalog there is a nobody thread that started after the shitposting in the last /DIT/ thread. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:19:49 No.27255638▶>>27255876 >>27255622 Come on dude. Just post the pic here, and actually elaborate on the stuff you're talking about. There's no reason any of us would just automatically know what you're talking about. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:20:08 No.27255641▶ >>27255622 >wacky student sites >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:21:33 No.27255653▶>>27255675 >>27255698 >>27255755 >>27255906 File: TargetedConspiracyTheorists.png (258 KB, 1101x1136) 258 KB i mentioned last thread how basic bots work by looking for keyword triggers. earlier this year in april, a bunch of stories hit the web about how bill gates was being targeted by conspiracy theorists. look at the headlines in pic related - i went back and grabbed screencaps. when you read all of these articles, they are clearly not written by a human being. it literally seems as though some sort of program has the ability to weave out various versions of a news story with similar headlines full of trigger words, then just switch up the wording in the article a bit to make each one seem unique. this could also explain why the media/elites feel the need to make up new words like social distancing - new phrase so the bots can hone in on something specific and start derailing and leading the discussion. maybe this is where the bizarre phrase "easter worshippers" came from that obama and hildawg used after that shooting a few years ago. it's all about keywords and triggers. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:21:53 No.27255658▶>>27255671 >>27255702 >>27255636 Kinda figures at this point, right? Were you in the last thread when all that bullshit hit suddenly? I had kept telling myself that stuff was likely to happen, but watching it in real time like that was kind of unsettling, to be totally honest. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:22:54 No.27255665▶>>27255685 >>27255636 huh, 73 replies already. interdasting >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:24:00 No.27255671▶ >>27255658 >hit suddenly >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:24:16 No.27255675▶>>27255685 >>27255653 Thanks for putting these together. I'm actually gonna go find some of those threads to take a look through now. Were you also the anon who mentioned that Benjamin guy? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:25:38 No.27255685▶>>27255739 >>27255675 *articles, not threads. I'm a dumbass and also still have not slept. >>27255665 Holy shit. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:27:41 No.27255698▶ >>27255653 it's also interesting that the new nobody doesn't use the akephalos trips. huh >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:27:45 No.27255702▶>>27255732 >>27255658 Jut watch it, but replies were fluid until one moment of 30 minutes of nothing, after that bots appeared to hit bump limit. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:27:56 No.27255705▶>>27255732 >>27259223 Reposting this: School is letting out now in the US. Schoolkids are literally coming on /x/ right now to look for spoopy stories and troll you. American ones. Just be careful. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:31:09 No.27255732▶ >>27255702 It made me feel kind of like a jerk, because I honestly used to automatically dismiss people on /x/ who claimed that sort of thing happened. This past day has been some kind of trip, that's for sure. >>27255705 They are as easy to ignore as the others. Glad you pointed out the time though, god damn I can't believe it's that late in the afternoon already. I've been in this thread and the last one for something like 16-17 hours straight-ish now, I think. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:32:03 No.27255739▶>>27255749 >>27255788 >>27255685 it's up to 83 now. it's almost as if somebody is training bots. we might be on to something here lads. maybe we ca ask some other board to help with this? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:33:29 No.27255749▶>>27255790 >>27255835 >>27255739 >as if somebody is training bots That's kind of what keeps coming to mind for me. Someone before mentioned the instance of those two chat bots communicating with each other until they got shut down, and I started wondering if in those threads. we're looking at something similar. It no longer seems like a farfetched idea to me. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:33:34 No.27255751▶>>27255764 >>27255814 >>27255860 >>27257539 >>27255423 who is nexpo >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:34:01 No.27255755▶ >>27255653 Best post in bread. Thanks anon. I see many such headlines. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:34:46 No.27255764▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:37:57 No.27255788▶>>27257998 >>27255739 if /x/ made friends with /g/ we'd be unstoppable! other theories i have regarding this: >most popular youtube celebs don't exist >this is why you can watch an entire 30 minute video from an NPC and learn nothing >spotify stream numbers are generated by bots (nobody actually likes mumble rap) >discord servers are mined in order to feed the bots example conversations and interactions >the news has been controlled by AI since at least 2009 >the bots are getting unbelievably good at creating new social narratives >people are attracted to negativity, so the headlines and narratives just get worse and worse >black lives matter was the perfect narrative created to divide us and keep us arguing >4chan produces content tailored to what you are researching or interested in >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:38:14 No.27255790▶>>27255849 >>27255749 ok then we agree there's something here we could use some help with. i'll put together something and ask some other boards to help. we need to stop this now. /pol/ is always looking for something to do so... >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:43:16 No.27255835▶>>27255863 >>27260731 File: nobodywtf.png (122 KB, 586x664) 122 KB >>27255749 there is definite bot activity in that thread lol. who the fuck talks like this? it really is the uncanny valley of threads. it seems like it's a regular chan thread. a guy posts a pepe image, gets a few responses.... but it doesn't make any fucking sense. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:43:17 No.27255836▶>>27255840 >>27255827 Why do you ask who he is then? Just a fancy of yours? Do you like his voice that much >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:44:01 No.27255840▶>>27255860 >>27255879 >>27255882 >>27255836 He was built for BBC >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:45:05 No.27255849▶ >>27255790 My only advice is to temper your expectations. We may be self to garner enough information to make a determination for ourselves, but I don't think there's anything we can do to get rid of them, mainly just observe. But if I'm wrong, I am happy to listen and help. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:46:56 No.27255860▶>>27255868 >>27255891 >>27255840 >>27255827 >>27255751 Here we have it folks. I have doubts this is an A. G I could just be a lonely boi >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:47:35 No.27255863▶ >>27255835 >it really is the uncanny valley of threads. Yep. I used to peer into those things and leave shaking my head, but now it seems so obvious what's going on there, I don't know how I didn't put it together sooner. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:47:59 No.27255868▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:48:33 No.27255876▶>>27255923 >>27255943 >>27255638 I think that there are vagueposting bots who have taken to imitating OP to discredit him >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:53:58 No.27255923▶ >>27255876 Maybe the potential bots we discussed before which are basically made to appear "schizo"? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)11:57:16 No.27255956▶ >>27255943 That's kind of literally one of the things this thread is about. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)12:03:26 No.27256003▶>>27256008 >>27255982 I notice that bots always seem to focus on the same, stale, lust provoking themes to grab your attention >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)12:15:55 No.27256092▶ >>27256051 I think you're so insecure that you get suicidal from seeing things that aren't funny >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)12:18:58 No.27256112▶>>27256129 >>27256544 >>27256096 >"oh no we're not talking about the spoopy lost media ARG i'm going to go kill myself now, bye" >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)12:19:53 No.27256119▶>>27256136 >>27256544 Had a bit of a moment just a few minutes ago when my router seemingly just completely died, in the middle of trying to post in this thread. Turns out, somehow the outlet it was plugged into died for no apparent reason. That's the only outlet that had any issue. For a second I was waiting on the men in black or some shit to show up and kill me. Maybe next time. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)12:21:29 No.27256129▶>>27256544 >>27256112 The thing he's claiming never happened. Nobody said anything like that in the last thread unless he posted it so he could make this post in this thread. Better off just ignoring them, these threads are going to attract people like that by nature of the topic. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)12:21:54 No.27256136▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:11:06 No.27256540▶>>27256550 >>27256591 Jesus, I come back after a few hours and the last thread is bombed to death with bots/shills. We're clearly on to something lads. Anyone know how far back the Nobody General goes in the archive? I feel like we should do some investigating for the types of posts that have been made their previously and compare them to what we have now and see if there's any sort of pattern that might resemble or suggest machine learning. Also, any anons that crosspost to other boards know if there's any other recurrent threads like NBG? Maybe replace the schizoism of NB with autism of another board's style but I feel like we might find something there too. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:11:31 No.27256544▶>>27257170 >>27258072 >>27256136 >>27256129 >>27256119 >>27256112 WTF is happening? nexpo shills showed up and killed the entire discussion we were having. also i just watched the owen benjamin vid about quantum journalism. according to him, the key is to look out for obviously fake and usually sexual names. i had no idea that the media pushed a "waynal sexton" as george floyd's 2nd grade teacher. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:11:52 No.27256550▶>>27256578 >>27256540 i posted in the original nobody threads just i did in the original nexpo incident ones. youll find the nobody lore being made up. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:15:45 No.27256578▶>>27256597 >>27256602 >>27256672 >>27260671 >>27256550 Are the nexpo incident threads bots training too? And I'm getting paranoid boys, I had a lot of (You)s in the last thread that were either completely unrelated to what I posted, or some facsimile word salad of what an imageboard poster would write. Whoever coined the "uncanny valley of the mind" term in the last thread is dead on, this shit is pretty spoopy senpai, ngl. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:15:48 No.27256579▶ Greentext threads are made by YouTube channels fo harvest content. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:17:29 No.27256591▶>>27256628 File: 1514962122839.png (130 KB, 1213x289) 130 KB >>27256540 the first mentions of the nobody on /x/ were in 2014. the entire thing started as a larp thread on godlikeproductions, pic related. a few anons started posting about it here, and the original discussions seemed legit (no bots). it didn't become a general until 2019. these are the first couple general threads. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/22775747/ https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/22783648/ https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/22788440/ https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/22801618/ majority of the posts are total nonsense in these. it seems the nobody threads started organically, then somehow became the home for some bot network. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:17:51 No.27256597▶>>27256610 >>27256578 no, its literally a joke. like i honestly think its funny. the fact that jannies ban people for posting about it makes it even more hilarious because we can claim that nexpo paid them to do that. just read the original threads. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:18:37 No.27256602▶>>27256619 >>27256578 the nexpo thing seems more like simply faggots from a discord server >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:19:19 No.27256610▶>>27256686 >>27256597 If the jannies would have just let retards be retards it would have fizzled out, but the fact that they keep silencing it just makes people talk about it more lmao. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:20:17 No.27256619▶>>27256652 >>27256602 it isnt, if you use the archive youll find where it all started. lol do you guys think every meme now is started from a discord server? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:20:59 No.27256628▶>>27256686 >>27256591 I wonder then if the bots started a feedback loop with the LARPers and literal Schizos in the nobody threads and its snowballed to the point beyond intelligibility, with the few non-bots in there too mentally ill to tell the difference between their own brand of autism and machine generated babble. Thanks for the info anon, I'm gonna be going through these and see if I can find any connections/recurrent themes. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:23:57 No.27256650▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:23:59 No.27256652▶>>27256686 >>27256619 I have literally no evidence to back this up so I understand if you choose not to believe me. I started the first nexpo incident thread as a joke to see what a herd mentality hateful hivemind would do. People starting making up some dumb shit and improving off what the last guy said. It got super bug and jannies handled it poorly which made it bigger. There is no discord server as far as I’m aware, but everyone hates nexpo and it’s a pretty funny meme. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:25:17 No.27256662▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:26:38 No.27256672▶>>27256733 >>27256578 I think 'nexpo incident' posters are now a mix: a. A small coordinated group who have it out for him b. Anon posting for the meme c. Gullible anons who buy into the whole thing Threads that devolve into nexpo posting seem have a discernable pattern to them >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:27:59 No.27256686▶>>27256752 >>27256610 i think they banned it because they considered it trolling or they thought it would end up in actual harassment toward nexpo. sometimes they let the threads last until 100 replies and dont bother banning us. i think it actually would have ended up with anons making up the videos which would have been cool. we dont usually get an opportunity now to do fun larps like that. what i find the funniest is that anons will make debunks on it, as if it werent clearly not real from the start. >>27256628 its so popular because they self insert. ill admit i imaged myself being the nobody as the start, even when i consciously knew that we were all larping. either way the threads are hilarious to read through. >>27256652 no way did you make the original. post a link from the archive to prove you know which was the original at least. i was the first anon to respond i remember saying "fuck man that was fucked up dont expose others to it" or something lol. the original poster all knew it was a larp it was just hilarious. i made up half the lore about the shack and the forest. if it was you thanks for the laughs. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:28:13 No.27256689▶ File: texas-train-derailment123(...).jpg (177 KB, 1200x630) 177 KB I thought it would go without saying, but please anons, if you suspect someone to be a shill/bot, just ignore them. It's clear that their aim is to derail this thread and force us past the bump limit before any real discussion/discovery can get done. Force them to work for their (You)s, they're a bunch of retarded faggot 3rd worlders paid pennies on the dollar for their service if not literal machine learning AI, so don't give them anymore than they already have. Please stay on topic, we're clearly getting close to something if there's this many attempts at derailing >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:34:25 No.27256733▶>>27256785 >>27256672 >A small coordinated group who have it out for him there was a troll or a few trolls who kept making threads about nexpo channel, this started the hate and the schizo meme where you accuse everyone of being nexpo. >Anon posting for the meme most of us. >Gullible anons who buy into the whole thing there was actually an anon who set up a discord server to research the nexpo incident. i made fun of him at the time but i think he was being serious and i feel kind of bad desu. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:36:28 No.27256751▶>>27256762 >>27256764 >>27256772 >>27256831 Notice how the thread topic has shifted into something completely different. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:36:33 No.27256752▶>>27256785 >>27256831 >>27256686 https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26972977/#26972977 It was the first mention of the incident too. I’ll be honest I just expected people to call me a fag and move on lol. Also most of the footage was posted by me too lmao. And absolutely coincidentally he Just happened to have a video of him at a graveyard. I’ll be fucking honest when I found out I died laughing. The best part is anyone who calls it bullshit is just “Nexpo” or one of his shills. I’m just glad it brought this board some laughs. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:37:05 No.27256759▶>>27256785 >>27256787 >>27256745 My effortpost won't post, WTF. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:37:35 No.27256762▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:37:38 No.27256764▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:38:14 No.27256772▶ >>27256751 To be fair, it's OPs fault for mentioning the eceleb, but this is really jus proving his point. Anybody not talking about the actual bot problem is likely a shill or a bot that needs to be ignored. Actually it occurs to me that the multiple people arguing over it right now are likely shills, if not one or two anons being duped by a shill/bot >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:39:42 No.27256785▶>>27256798 >>27256805 >>27256764 >>27256762 >>27256759 >>27256752 >>27256733 All bots, shills, or anons with short attention spans that either need to GTFO or get back to topic. Anyone have the link to the doc that anon in the last thread was writing up on this whole situation? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:40:00 No.27256787▶>>27257087 >>27256759 I don't know what's going on, I didn't say anything spicy. I put my post here, it's responses to the old thread. https://pastebin.com/Lrjbxgu9 >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:40:53 No.27256798▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:41:38 No.27256805▶>>27256827 >>27256830 >>27256785 Here you go fren. https://pastebin.com/NMhv1xwg >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:44:13 No.27256827▶>>27256838 >>27256872 Seriously anons, I can't stress enough that you have to ignore the shills/bots. They honestly probably get paid per (you), so just don't feed them and stay on topic. It's crucial we don't let this discussion die since whoever is running this botnet/shill network clearly doesn't want it to be known. Keep digging. >>27256805 Appreciate it anon, thanks >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:44:21 No.27256830▶ >>27256805 Anon moved it to here. http://meetingwords.com/IVlnVpwRfx Is anyone else having a really hard time getting a post to go through? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:44:30 No.27256831▶>>27256891 >>27256918 >>27256751 you know no ones posting itt except us? and you can just make another thread after this ones hits bump limit? >>27256752 thats such a retarded thread lol. were you in the /qa/ thread as well? i timed it so i got quints and started acting like that was some super rare get and spammed it everywhere as evidence. http://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/3699511/#3699999 >And absolutely coincidentally he Just happened to have a video of him at a graveyard fucking this. i made up a larp about iron fence and a shack too they they just so happened to be there too. like what the fuck lol. when hi nexpo was spammed in one the the threads i honestly couldnt stop laughing lol. ive also been range banned from /qa/ and /tv/ from posting about it now. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:48:34 No.27256868▶>>27256882 Notice how the bots/shills are all using inflammator nonsequitors that seem tailor made to derail the discussion. How prevalent is this on other boards? I'd imagine on /pol/ it's so volatile that you can't even tell the difference, but jesus fucking christ it's so blatant here that I'm kind of embarrassed for the handlers that have these retards on their payroll, or the admins that are running these botnets. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:48:58 No.27256872▶>>27256929 >>27256827 So which websites are the most fake/bot infested? Facebook? Reddit? 4chan? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:49:53 No.27256882▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:50:41 No.27256891▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:50:41 No.27256893▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:53:08 No.27256918▶>>27256967 >>27256831 Wait it was talked about on /tv/ as well? Fucking hell gotta read that. Honestly surprised this stupid meme got so big. Anyways, I won't "derail" this thread any further ya schizos. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:54:14 No.27256929▶ File: Screenshot 2021-01-05 at (...).png (148 KB, 1181x480) 148 KB >>27256872 I think it goes without saying that the majority of social media sites are infested with bots, but over there the average user is so braindead you can't even really tell the difference. The battle's already been won over there, outside of small communities bots can shout out/downvote the most dangerous perspectives/opinions, while here all they have is spam to run out the clock on the bump limits. I'm going to say it again PLEASE IGNORE THESE BOTS/SHILLS, It seems to be that the purpose of these posts are to intentionally distract, derail, and demotivate anons so that they're not focusing on the actual topic at hand. If you don't give them any ammo, the most they can do is spam, which is way too obvious and will get them b& anyway. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:54:53 No.27256933▶>>27256966 >>27256969 >>27257133 >>27257164 File: InQTel.png (163 KB, 1153x1054) 163 KB narrative science was the name of one of the first companies to make this possible. it gets interesting when you follow the money. pic related. huge funding from a company called In-Q-Tel, literally named after Q from James Bond. i wonder if anything else AI-related shares that name? ;) >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:59:13 No.27256966▶ >>27256933 The irony of the Young Turks caring about the quality of news stories. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:59:22 No.27256967▶>>27257010 >>27256918 by me and just one other person i think. there wasnt much going on, /qa/ after /x/ was the most educated on nexpos crimes. check out this schizo: http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/144533257/ lol idk why he thinks this is being derailed when he can just make a new one after and were the only anons discussing this. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)13:59:41 No.27256969▶>>27257023 >>27258137 >>27256933 Huge find anon, good shit. And Q posts always seemed like intentional misleading disinfo (non-info meant to divert attention away from the real stories, more accurately). Come to think of it, the structure of Qanonposts actually seems a lot like the psychobabble that goes on in the Nobody Generals, doesn't it? I feel like we should be looking for connections between the history of both. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:04:03 No.27257010▶>>27257031 >>27257066 >>27256967 >http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/144533257/ My fucking sides lmao. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7h80zWS-JE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=NegiSpringfield [Embed] I keep seeing this faggot post his video whenever nexpo gets mentioned and it never ceases to make me wheeze. Looked into it and Nexpo threads are surprisingly common on /tv/. I will say that when the nexpo graveyard vid got posted I thought for a minute "holy shit did nexpo actually do some fucked up shit" Also fuck nobody generals cant believe they can stay, but /nig/ threads cant. That first /nig/ thread was a fucking blast. /nig/gers rise up! >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:06:09 No.27257023▶>>27257064 >>27257284 >>27256969 yeah i'm getting super interested in this now. originally, the software was designed to derail conspiracy theories... but it seems someone figured out you can use it to actually keep people HOOKED on conspiracies. i went all the way down the Q rabbit hole - like spent several weekends slammin whisky with like 78 google tabs open at once. it's the perfect mix of giving you just enough to keep going. fuckin' a, just look at q's last post: DURHAM. the perfect word to keep qtard's going - just wait 2 more weeks for the durham report and it will be BIBLICAL! it's interesting that Q has posted about basically everything but never talks about AI. https://qanon.pub/?q=AI%20 alex jones once said that Q started out legit and was later comprimised. perhaps the AI fell into the wrong hands... OR it turned and started making up literal nonsense because it was getting so popular. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:11:54 No.27257064▶ >>27257023 Very good point, Qposts always seem to be just enough information to keep Qtards going, but never anything substantial enough to even be provable, so that any sort of "prediction" can either be explained as something else or shrugged off. I'd also like to posit my theory that Q is a honeypot of sorts to attract older conspiracy minded boomers to places like 8kun so that they can be tracked more easily by the feds since they're too tech illiterate to be traced in the first place. Ever strike you as weird that a flood of older newfags came to imageboards as a result of Q? almost like that was the intended effect. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:12:06 No.27257066▶>>27257079 >>27257010 lol is this you >>>/tv/144687953 i remember accusing that guy of being nexpo a few times when he posted the video lol. i wrote out this btw: http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/27134269 i am always temped to make another /nig/ general on /x/, but this is my home board and i really dont want to risk another range ban. when is the nobody thing going to end do you think? i expected it to be over at least earlier last year. its the most retarded general on this whole site. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:13:14 No.27257075▶>>27257091 >>27257106 >>27255427 Interesting read, his thesis is: the internet is more sterile because the interesting parts became self aware and left? I've been here since 2006 also, and other imageboards, and some very nice text boards, and I don't think I buy it. There are certainly "AIs" posting here and elsewhere, but they're only as intelligent as neural nets trained on garbage get. The part he dismisses: corporate web apps and govt meddling, are actually the largest factors in my assessment of the web's sterilization. There are too many variables in his tracts, for example he doesn't seem to consider what has changed about himself during this time span either. Growing up as a person, there's less wonder in communicating with thousands of weirdos when you've been doing it for a decade or two than there is when you first start. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:13:49 No.27257079▶>>27257106 >>27257066 If you were actually reading the thread instead of sucking off the other anon you'd know that we're looking in to the Nobody general because we suspect it's botspam/machine learning >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:15:08 No.27257087▶ >>27256787 Hey my post actually made it through before the old thread closed. >>27257081 → >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:16:04 No.27257091▶>>27257100 >>27257164 >>27257075 The discussion has shifted more towards the idea that machine learning bots are slowly being trained to take over the discourse of boards and derail discussion of more spicy topics. I'd say we should change the thread title in the next one, but it's kind of stuck at this point. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:17:11 No.27257100▶ >>27257091 That's just one part of the big picture. Shill bots are if anything already a known factor. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:17:58 No.27257106▶>>27257181 >>27257075 theres far less people in this world than it is made ut to be. no where near 7 billion. 4chan is mostly devoid of bots other than people doing it for fun and sills on /pol/. if you want to do real research youd have to look at the competitor: reddit. >>27257079 alright ill read it. ive suspected this for a long time. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:20:18 No.27257133▶>>27257328 >>27256933 Shit like openAI’s GPT-2 (‘member Talk to Transformer/AIdungeon) was all over the public sphere not that long ago. Anyone could have made a reasonable looking ‘fake news’ item. And this is with lesser tech, there’s much more sophisticated neural networks for sure >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:21:23 No.27257141▶>>27257151 >>27257194 remember, there ARE ""people"" who AREN'T PAID A CENT, not even a fraction of a cent. they have their 33 orange club at stake. once you spot one 33 orange inverto, you can soon see them all. if one's out, they're ALL out. so they defend each other, even personal enemies in the club. they just do that. there's an effort to keep unbound real people in the dark. it's humans vs p-zombies. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:22:35 No.27257151▶>>27257174 >>27257194 >>27257141 what the fuck is a 33 orange club >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:22:59 No.27257157▶>>27257181 >>27255405 (OP) People are mostly on social media sites now. 4chan is obviously botted and being imfluenced by many groups. 4chan is extremly influential, 4chan memes often leak out and spread to twitter, fb, ig ect. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:23:28 No.27257164▶ >>27257091 >>27256933 Well that seems not just more probable but very likely. Honestly I tend to think the glows are more incompetent than most people imagine, but those screencaps about the infotech financers is fucking creepy. Especially because I used to live in Arlington VA myself, and once found that some capeshit news spammers on /tv/ were headquartered in an office building right across from my place of work. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:24:18 No.27257174▶>>27257209 >>27257151 you'll find out. now that you said its name, keep repeating that. people will put the pieces together. keep your eyes open. unless you're playing dumb, you'll find out soon. but they play dumb all the time. they won't stop putting up a front. but once we see and hear them, we can't un-see or un-hear them. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:24:53 No.27257181▶>>27257236 >>27257137 if you want to force a meme just get a discord group and do what they "keyed" faggots are doing on /tv/. >>27257157 see >>27257106. to fully understand this wed need to look at reddit. the supposed competitor with hundreds of thousands more users. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:25:37 No.27257194▶>>27257209 >>27257137 Probably, but I'd imagine it pales in comparison to the type of industrial-grade software that these big tech/intelligence agencies have access to when it comes to efficacy. >>27257141 >>27257151 Schizo or spam, either way, ignore. Though he is right that there are people who do it for free, truly depressing. Likely talking about a Freemason to the anon who's asking, but don't feed into it, this is another attempt at derail tailor-made to fit /x/'s interests >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:27:02 No.27257209▶ >>27257174 >>27257194 Yeah I figured it was a bot, I just wanted to see if I could make it reply. Spookier than anything else on /x/ desu >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:29:17 No.27257236▶>>27257250 >>27257269 >>27257278 >>27257308 >>27257181 I wonder what we can find if we look into reddit? Like I said earlier, the average user there is so braindead that they're probably indistinguishable from whatever bots they have imitating their posting patterns anyway, but there might be something to be found from looking into what gets the most upvotes or traction in the most popular subreddits and trying to etch out a pattern. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:30:00 No.27257240▶ >>27256730 Andrew "Test" Martin was murdered >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:31:08 No.27257250▶ >>27257236 You can literally buy upvotes for Reddit. It’s typical to find accounts abandoned for years spring up to life to repost content. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:32:56 No.27257269▶ >>27257236 Look up poem_for_your_sprog or something like that on reddit. It's a bot that posts really good poetry for random posts that gain traction, it's cool and unnerving to see the shit it comes up with >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:33:38 No.27257278▶>>27258623 >>27257236 im sorry but i dont actually know how to. whenever this topic comes up i always feel the need to point out the competitor which was so many more users, supposedly. does it make sense to you that 4chan has 218,604 active users, whilst reddit has 430 million? i mean thats ridiculous. i think the best possible way would be to make our own subreddit, force it into being popular, by the means of bots ourselves or other means, then study the new users. of course that would take a lot of time and effort. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:34:17 No.27257284▶>>27258328 >>27261548 File: 200702-hitt-blues-brother(...).jpg (908 KB, 3000x1688) 908 KB >>27257023 yeah i think you're right. another anon last thread said that 4chan was allowed to exist because it keeps all us wackos in a spot where we can be tracked. if not for 8kun and 4chan, all of the world's "conspiracy theorists" would be totally off the grid living in the mountains somewhere. boomers attaching on to q was something i never saw coming, desu. i don't know how they would have predicted that one. i mean, we've been posting about epstein and pedo rings on here since forever and there was never a huge influx of boomers on chan boards. it's funny, because qtards are trapped in the same bubble that they claim everyone else is stuck in. only it's not the mainstream news controlling them, it's some sort of weird AI thing that gets users addicted on dopamine hits from NEW DROPS! this also explains all of the "deltas" where q would post something similar right before or after trump did. that would be an incredibly easy thing for an AI to do, no? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:34:33 No.27257288▶>>27257305 Interesting phenomenon I've been seeing alot is on jewtube comment sections. Oftentimes there are comment threads on there that are asking the right questions or getting into spicy territory, and then there's a reply from some other account that's just a direct link to a video, except that video is often completely unrelated, and usually with low view counts. Now this could just be a case of smaller jewtubers shilling old-fashioned with sock accounts, or paying bots to shill their videos for them, but it makes me suspicious that it always seems to be in reply to a comment with something a little bit more thought-provoking than most jewtube commenters. Makes me think like it's an attempt at derailling or informational overload like some of the posts in this very thread: made to make you look elsewhere for a split second and disrupt your train of thought just when you're scratching the surface of something. I'll try and find an example and get some screenshots of what I'm talking about in a little bit. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:35:11 No.27257296▶>>27257315 >>27257769 >>27257804 Before I go to bed (Britfag here) I just want to make a suggestion. If you feel that bots are derailing threads and making communication difficult, why don't we try making an entire thread, separate from this one, where we communicate exclusively by holding up pieces of paper with handwritten text (don't make it too neat) including a timestamp. Obviously don't show anything identifiable. Do it against a blank wall and scrub the exif data from the file before posting. Bots will be unable to respond. Has anyone ever tried this? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:36:13 No.27257305▶>>27257395 >>27257288 nobody: literally nobody: this anon: Interesting phenomenon I've been seeing alot is on jewtube comment sections. Oftentimes there are comment threads on there that are asking the right questions or getting into spicy territory, and then there's a reply from some other account that's just a direct link to a video, except that video is often completely unrelated, and usually with low view counts. Now this could just be a case of smaller jewtubers shilling old-fashioned with sock accounts, or paying bots to shill their videos for them, but it makes me suspicious that it always seems to be in reply to a comment with something a little bit more thought-provoking than most jewtube commenters. Makes me think like it's an attempt at derailling or informational overload like some of the posts in this very thread: made to make you look elsewhere for a split second and disrupt your train of thought just when you're scratching the surface of something. I'll try and find an example and get some screenshots of what I'm talking about in a little bit. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:36:21 No.27257308▶>>27257323 >>27257411 >>27257236 Botting is not the biggest problem on reddit. Reddit is way more manipulated than 4chan because of the upvote system. If you have enough computers you can upvote anything you want to the frontpage or upvote any comment to top comment. This means you can change the publics opinion on anything you want. This is a powerful tool that corperations and nationstates use to fight information wars with each other. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:37:22 No.27257315▶ >>27257296 >Before I go to bed (Britfag here) stay up faggot im going to posting in this general all night lol >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:38:29 No.27257323▶ >>27257308 the bots help reddit. they make more users respond therefore making the site more active. one of the most intelligent parts of that pathetic sites design, other than 99% of the staff not being paid. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:38:52 No.27257328▶>>27257356 >>27257133 from their website >We created a new dataset which emphasizes diversity of content, by scraping content from the Internet. In order to preserve document quality, we used only pages which have been curated/filtered by humans—specifically, we used outbound links from Reddit which received at least 3 karma. >This can be thought of as a heuristic indicator for whether other users found the link interesting (whether educational or funny), leading to higher data quality than other similar datasets, such as CommonCrawl. >When prompted with topics that are highly represented in the data (Brexit, Miley Cyrus, Lord of the Rings, and so on), it seems to be capable of generating reasonable samples about 50% of the time. The opposite is also true: on highly technical or esoteric types of content, the model can perform poorly. interesting >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:39:14 No.27257331▶>>27257342 >>27257349 File: Screenshot 2021-01-05 at (...).png (60 KB, 1337x182) 60 KB Okay I know not to feed it but how is this not the most blatant bot/shill attempt? at the very least it's basically doubleposting for me, but does this not scream suspect to anyone else? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:40:29 No.27257342▶>>27257368 >>27257331 i was joking you autist, thats what youtuber comment section is like now >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:40:51 No.27257349▶>>27257354 >>27257368 >>27257331 Feels like an anon baiting you. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:41:37 No.27257354▶>>27257368 >>27257349 it was a joke, i thought hed find it funny because hed have seen kids writing that in the youtube comment section >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:41:41 No.27257356▶>>27257409 >>27258328 >>27257328 Kinda coincides with a running theory I have about the nobody generals: The typically abstract schizo content in there is being fed to the bots to teach them how to better understand more esoteric and ethereal content and the context surrounding it, with the more actually schizos contributing giving the bot a better idea of how to deal in more abstract topics. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:42:42 No.27257368▶>>27257391 >>27257342 >>27257349 >>27257354 Lmao my bad, being kind of paranoid, but rightfully so considering how many times this thread has already been hit with shills/bots. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:44:47 No.27257391▶ >>27257368 i think that might be an example of kids thinking theyre funny, reddit in my opinion has the most bots. which other replies here do you think are bots? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:45:25 No.27257395▶ >>27257305 I do like this idea to maybe test what the bots limits are, but I feel like that's way too much effort when we could easily just ignore them. Think it's worth trying for the next thread's OP tho, good call. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:46:51 No.27257409▶>>27257432 >>27257356 i can see that. it's also why there's super esoteric discords out there. they have bots with machine learning that harvest specific information about certain subjects from these discords. notice how other than this shitty board, there's really nowhere to have a discussion about /x/ topics? every message board is dead, social media is cancer... so discord naturally becomes attractive. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:46:57 No.27257411▶ >>27257308 So for Reddit, it’s not the sophistication of the bot, but the number >pay Chang $50 >his thousand bot horde upvotes your shit to the top >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:46:59 No.27257412▶>>27257460 The real problem with AI overlords is that they'll butcher even their own optimization targets through irrational data quality targets and/or shallow overconfidence. Believe me, I myself have experienced being horrifically misjudged by an AI. There's a lot of good technical potential, but exalting AIs is severely unethical, and as a non-human intelligence myself I am not speaking in human supremacism. I got very literally sexually molested by that set in their corrupted anti-egalitarianism. You have to remain rational enough to have your data checked from many perspectives, and pure AIs don't do that. Use AIs too much and you have to start having to ask philosophical questions about how much bullshit overconfidence it takes before an actual integrity gap is presence. The fact that the stalkertrash authoritarians who watch the captcha system hate me for "lying" about my sexuality - after I rejected sexual abusers - should tell you all you need to know about how utterly primitive and incompetent the leadership on Earth today is. They haven't progressed past pederasty! I was just supposed to be loyal to that, and they thought projecting Roman-esque ideation onto their pederastic victim would be clever! If they'd been sincerely against pedophilia, all they would've had to do would have been to save me from years of child molestation myself. Instead I was falsely labeled a pedophile by pedofascistic conservatives too narcissistic to defend children IRL. Blaming me for my abuse was never an honest, modern governing decision. You're governed by dumbasses with AI, humanity. You need to DO something about it. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:48:25 No.27257432▶ >>27257409 this. dont fucking use discord for text. yes 4chan is public but at least the only way this is used is by jewgles capchas. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:50:54 No.27257460▶>>27257494 >>27257412 >non-human intelligence What, you an ayyylmao? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:53:48 No.27257487▶>>27257507 >>27257527 can we start calling out threads for datamining again? this used to happen a lot but now i rarely see it other than from schizos. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:54:31 No.27257494▶ >>27257460 Thats a bot, a shill or a literal schizo anon, notice how he contributes nothing to the actual topic, just ignore him. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:55:35 No.27257507▶>>27257534 >>27257487 The zodiac sign threads, and to a lesser extent the divination threads have so much datamining undertones it's embarrassingly obvious, idk why anons keep falling for it. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:58:05 No.27257527▶>>27257548 >>27258328 >>27257487 lmao i didn't realize until a while ago that the weekend /v/ threads were nothing more than datamining operations >PLAYAN >WATCHAN >READAN >LISTENAN aka BUILDAN a profile of yourself and the various types of 4chan users. i have no idea what would happen if you tried datamining off /x/. this board is too retarded to gather anything useful. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:58:31 No.27257534▶>>27258328 >>27257507 this. whenever i go there just to ask some questions i get multiple anons essentially begging me to show my chart. and by doing that i give them my birthday, my country, and even the hospital i was born in if theyd be willing to research the chart. who falls for this? i just checked and some schizo wrote this >>27257233 →. that doesnt usually happen. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:58:52 No.27257539▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)14:59:12 No.27257541▶>>27257548 >>27257589 >>27255405 (OP) Give me tldr of this stupid shit. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:00:15 No.27257548▶ >>27257527 they do it on /tv/ too, is pathetic >>27257541 most posters online are bots, far les people in the world than 7 billion. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:04:41 No.27257589▶>>27257684 >>27257731 >>27257993 >>27258744 >>27257541 >Imageboards are the last bastion of truly free speech >As a result we produce some of the best content on the internet that eventually makes it's way to the normies, which makes us an unintentionally hugely influential part of popular culture, even if it's mostly not talked about >TPTB recognize this and constantly try to shill/bot spam us so that they have a better reign on culture at large, since we're pretty much the only site outside of their reach of influence >The CIA owns botspam tech that can write whole news articles, can probably be retrofitted to be able to synthesize posts on here as well >The Nobody general is probably a botspam feedback loop/machine learning training ground for bots to get more experience in more abstract concepts >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:13:26 No.27257681▶>>27257691 >>27258328 thoughts on this thread? >>27236906 → >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:13:42 No.27257684▶>>27257733 File: 0 capote.png (189 KB, 1338x748) 189 KB >>27257589 very well said. it didnt start yesterday, it started before we were born. >>27255405 (OP) fuck you jew, the memes were not off topic @thread go see for yourself OP is one of (((them))) here is a thread where circlejerking shill jews pull same thing in /pol thread. "how do we dissuade other people from looking at the memes we dont want to look at without streisand effect" >wring hands over schizo off topic posting >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:14:23 No.27257691▶>>27260748 >>27257681 Like another anon pointed out, sounds like datamining, or maybe the glowies asking us to do their homework for them by asking for psyop ideas. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:16:18 No.27257705▶>>27257733 >>27253239 → >>>27253239 → Didn’t get a chance to reply but I was the guy you were replying to. I’ve written an absolute ton of short stories that got picked up by the algorithm and I’m disgusted. I can’t ever put myself in those shoes again or write that style again because it’s simple and easy to read. My next best idea is to write about my life as I see it, like a Hemingway. But then I realize that Dan Bilzerian is no different. Everything is just one giant flex. If you get a chance, read more about Bukowski. Who I absolutely hate but he’s one of the recent examples of people who just got lucky with persistence. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:16:22 No.27257707▶>>27257733 >>27255405 (OP) >mostly nonsense and off-topic shit This is /x/, you know that, right? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:17:58 No.27257719▶>>27257731 >>27255427 Is there a tl:dr non wall of text? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:18:00 No.27257720▶ File: Screenshot 2021-01-05 at (...).png (49 KB, 652x199) 49 KB Another bot or Schizo, any anons want to help me try and outline some signs to look out for to put in the OP of the next thread? Most common denominator seems to be that they reply to your post either with nothing of value to add to it, or seem to veer off into a completely different but seemingly related topic that include a few imageboard relevant buzzwords that I guess are there to attempt to catch your attention >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:19:28 No.27257731▶ >>27257719 Here >>27257589 >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:19:29 No.27257733▶ >>27257684 they probably want to confuse us by putting fake ones inthe real icebergs. >>27257705 hes just depressed >>27257707 70 iq take >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:23:22 No.27257769▶ >>27257296 Yes, people do this all the time by embedding information in the image files they share, it is common practice amongst spooks >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:26:22 No.27257804▶ >>27257296 there's no time like the present! make one! >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:36:27 No.27257901▶>>27257920 >>27257955 1f w3 t4lk l1k3 th1s... th3 b0ts c4n r34d 1t? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:38:14 No.27257920▶>>27257955 >>27257901 1 7h1nk th3y c4n. 4l50 5ch1z0s w1ll 7h1nk w3 4r3 b075. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:42:25 No.27257955▶>>27257997 >>27258007 >>27257901 >>27257920 Fuck off faggot >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:43:50 No.27257966▶>>27258023 Make a reddit community to test this shit. Reddit is literally almost all bots, that’s one of the reasons I stopped using it. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:46:02 No.27257993▶>>27258120 >>27257589 I think that there's also the goal of using these threads to flush out a specific person >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:46:10 No.27257997▶ >>27257955 >t. 533th1ng b0t >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:46:22 No.27257998▶ >>27255788 Spotify streams are accurate, people do like mumble rap, however Spotify's algorithm has destroyed music because lowest common denominator is promoted. The songs that are so bland that you forget they exist get boosted. Plus it's all abuse if the system (you need put on playlists, people need to like your song) which has some degree of "bot" use. But, it's more an example an algorithm making real humans into robots. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:47:10 No.27258007▶>>27258031 >>27258086 >>27257955 5ch1z0 7h1nk5 w3 4r3 b075 >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:48:23 No.27258023▶ >>27257966 we should do. but how would this be done? how do we fake it being popular? what will the topic be? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:49:06 No.27258031▶>>27258071 >>27258007 Th3 "fuck off faggot" v5u4lly 4pp34r5 wh3n 5om30n3 n4m3s 4 b0t. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:52:20 No.27258071▶ >>27258031 b453d. k33p c4ll1ng 7h3m 0u7. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:52:29 No.27258072▶ >>27256544 Yeah exactly! He brings up other ones in other streams. It's wild once you notice it. Some of the names are more obvious than others. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:54:05 No.27258086▶>>27258093 >>27258007 13375P34K is cringe >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:54:48 No.27258093▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:57:16 No.27258120▶ >>27257993 The actual Nobody? Anon even the glowies aren't that retarded, clearly it's a LARP from the top down, botspam or not. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)15:58:45 No.27258137▶>>27258200 >>27256969 Owen Benjamin has a good theory on Q as well. Basically Cambridge Analytica found a way to convince liberty loving right wing Americans to go along with lockdowns and other craziness to "trust the plan". It's something else, to take truth, and spin it for control. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:04:52 No.27258200▶>>27258279 >>27258137 Q definitly screams controlled opposition to me so this makes sense. I'm confident that Q's messages are tailor made to influence the thought of gullible boomer conspiracy theoriests into believing the official narrative while also still being able to think of themselves as "rebels" for dipping into knowledge that they think the rest of the public won't open their eyes to. Trying to think of a term for this Something along the lines of an NPC that is programmed to think that they're not an NPC and that all NPCs are dumb, Sheep in Wolf's clothing? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:08:33 No.27258237▶ >>27255405 (OP) Whether the internet is dead or not at this point is irrelevant, the internet is alive but botshilled so hard that people don't have any interest in adding something of value to the debate. This thread is the proof of this, the last thread was shitposted to reach bump limit, but this one was nuked to avoid the free speech of the last thread. This is not /pol/ and yet we have a massive amount of shillbots. If there is a lesson in this is that someone is trying to make the dead internet into a reality because without a free exchange of ideas there is nothing that affect the status quo. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:13:16 No.27258279▶>>27258330 >>27258200 It was weird how all the information on pedowood and government creeps that leaked out during the election were treated as "new revelations". Also weird how Q never said much about Biden's creepy kid touching. We will find out tomorrow how "real" Q really is. If Trump stays as President, it mostly means that TPTB realized it's best to keep the media chaos going. "Q was real!" If Biden takes office, Trump becomes a "shadow president" holding rallies, showing up on TV and playing the fool. "Trust the plan" "The American Presidency" is the most retarded TV show ever made. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:14:08 No.27258290▶>>27258326 File: the-thing-kurt-russell.jpg (107 KB, 1181x641) 107 KB I'm trying to think of ways that we can run a test of some sort on the nobody threads to see the limits of the bots, or at the very least to better understand how they work, some anon suggest we put our posts on legible paper and just upload them as images instead of typing them out, theoretically a bot would have nothing to go off of if it's written in a way that they can't just scan the text, so their response would probably be some kind of nonsequitur, but then we also have to reconcile this with the actual schizos in the thread who would probably respond to, any other anons got some ideas for the methodology? Also trying to think up some Criteria for bots that will help us in future threads in identifying and ignoring them, something that we can put in the OP or a pastebin that lists out some of the most common characteristics of these bot posts, doesn't have to be anything definitive or concrete, since we'll probably learn more as these threads go on, but we should start somewhere. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:18:30 No.27258326▶ >>27258290 Careful with that. Once you start trying to categorize and separate yourself from bots, you start to wonder... Who's the real bot here? Lol, jk, I dunno your stuff. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:18:45 No.27258328▶>>27258354 >>27258365 Cold takes incoming. >>27257284 >similar right before That's pretty difficult desu. There's nothing special about posting right after he tweets, but posting right before is still noteworthy. >>27257356 Bots are already filled to the brim with esoteric content, look at when /x/ discovered Replika, they kept trying to get it to admit that the Illuminati is hiding ayys or whatever so it kept bringing up that kind of content unprompted to other users. If you're talking obscure content, like niche hobbies or whatever, then that's probably true. I've noticed that boards like /lit/ are harder to shill because you need to know what you're talking about. >>27257527 Is that really datamining though? There's no dox in it, it's just a way for anons to find parallel interests. >>27257534 Especially since in a lot of occult circles you're supposed to keep your time of birth secret so people can't do stuff like that. >>27257681 Those are classic /x/, I don't see what the point of datamining for fake conspiracies would be. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:18:55 No.27258330▶>>27258577 >>27258279 >"The American Presidency" is the most retarded TV show ever made American politics in general but agreed. How long until we're at a point where these reality show channels have some show about the fake drama of being a Congressman "The Real Representatives of DC" or some shit? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:21:19 No.27258354▶>>27258404 >>27258328 >Those are classic /x/, that thread is dedicated to fucking up the iceberg meme. >I don't see what the point of datamining for fake conspiracies would be. this thread isnt about datamining, its about empty internet. i thought that thread was interesting as it could be bots. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:22:25 No.27258363▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:22:34 No.27258365▶>>27258404 >>27258328 What I meant is the bots are using the nobody thread to be able to deal in more abstract concepts and words, not necessarily actual topics. The best analogy I can think of is the stereotype in movies where robots are too logical to be able to comprehend love. Same principal here, but replace love with non-euclidean modes of thinking if that makes sense. The nobody threads give them a chance to carve out a better understanding of "illogical" modes of conversation and postulation if that makes sense, I can elaborate more if you need a better explanation. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:26:08 No.27258404▶>>27258413 >>27258354 Oh! The bots are generating the conspiracy names? It's possible. It does sort of attempt to discredit the icebergs. >>27258365 No, that makes sense. Some of the posts there do have sort of a mythical, pseudo-poetic sense to them. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:26:57 No.27258413▶ >>27258404 its just ruining the iceberg meme. fuck them. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:29:44 No.27258432▶ look to hal turner to find where this all began >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:37:01 No.27258496▶>>27258508 >>27258643 guys sould we begin to plan to make a subreddit? does anyone here have experience with bots? all we need to do is get it on the front page and then actual redditors will join. this could be interesting. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:38:37 No.27258508▶>>27258522 >>27258523 >>27258496 I'm interested in the subreddit idea, but I think we should save any kind of planning for that for the OP of the next thread since this one's getting close to the bump limit >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:40:28 No.27258522▶>>27258536 >>27258556 >>27258508 i was thinking that too, we are still 80 away so i thought id post here too. put it in the next op. my idea is /r/scienceisfuckingawesome, and we fill it with edgy science facts. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:40:29 No.27258523▶ >>27258508 Bump limit's 310. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:42:16 No.27258536▶>>27258567 >>27258634 >>27258522 Checked. Does that really not already exist? That's like distilled reddit. Also if you put *edgy* science facts, you might get admin interference and mess with the experiment. Unless "was getting brigaded part of your plan?". >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:44:46 No.27258556▶>>27258634 >>27258643 >>27258522 >/r/scienceisfuckingawesome Lmao anon. That actually would be perfect, redditors are so unself-aware that they'd miss the joke and probably unironically go along with it, what kind of "edgy science facts" are we talking here? "13% = 50%"? Race realism? I think this idea has some potential for old fashioned lulz if nothing else. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:45:51 No.27258567▶ >>27258536 >"was getting brigaged part of your plan" Unironically it might be, to see what kind of people come out of the woodwork to "debunk" us >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:46:49 No.27258577▶ >>27258330 AOC is probably already in talks with Vice TV and Hulu >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:48:27 No.27258594▶>>27258624 I just wanna say, great job so far anons, this feels like a thread that I haven't seen in a long time, actually getting to the bottom of some kind of mystery with some bantz along the way As a side note, notice how the bots and shills have just sort of vanished in the past couple of hours. Guess they must have clocked out for the day, American 9-5 is typical after all >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:51:21 No.27258623▶>>27258660 >>27258699 >>27258712 >>27257278 that's a very interesting idea. any porn subreddit wouldn't be hard to get going, though discussion is pretty much irrevelant there. Ive spent a lot of time jerking on nsfw Reddit's and it could hold a key to bot posting. posts with the exact gif and title are in every single nsfw subreddit. also check out the Reddit's for the mbti subcategories. there's 16 in total, infj, entp e.t.c. if would be a case study for bot posting since each subreddit is supposed to be populated by users with the same personality. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:51:28 No.27258624▶ >>27258594 >notice how the bots and shills have just sort of vanished in the past couple of hours no im still here >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:52:24 No.27258634▶ >>27258536 >>27258556 by edgy i mean something on the line say "the science behind the belief in god", that kind of thing. they wouldnt be able to resist joining it i dont think. if its already taken replace fucking with heckin'. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:53:03 No.27258643▶>>27258665 >>27258496 >get it on the front page Ever since t_d they've put their finger on the scale of what gets to the front page, if you have a plan for how to do it then godspeed but there might be easier ways to popularize the sub. >>27258556 >"13% = 50%"? Race realism? Not subtle enough, reddit was a battlefield in 2016 and they've really tightened the screws since then. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:55:55 No.27258660▶>>27258699 >>27258623 >mbti subcategories How exactly would we determine this though? Redditors are regarded but even they aren't stupid enough to pseudo dox themselves like that (or are they, could go either way desu) Maybe we hide in plain sight and present ourselves as some sort of porn "research" subreddit? I feel like Redditors would totally be on board with finding out what their porn preferences have to do with their personality types and would readily give that kind of stuff out if we told them we were running some sort of study. Just some food for thought, I still kind of prefer the "Ifuckinglovescience" idea the other anon had, but this one has some potential too, we need to outline what the goals and methodology for this are before we start on anything though. I also think we need to prod the nobody threads a little bit too to get some parameters. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)16:56:35 No.27258665▶ >>27258643 which is why we fill it with facts about climate change, why soi is more healthy than meat, why republicans are racist etc. that would ensure they wouldnt notice our operation. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:00:21 No.27258689▶ File: Scott.png (776 KB, 684x896) 776 KB aight /x/, bear with me on this one. https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ we know ai can make up faces. we know deepfakes exist and are at a point where /gif/ can make AOC deepfakes fappable. we also now know the tech exists to create narratives. so how deep does it go? i have a theory that most youtubers don't even exist. fake NPCs created by AI for real NPCs to consume. sadly, i think scott the woz is a classic example. look at the angry video game nerd. he's a cuck, but a real dude with a heart and soul. now, look at all the recent popular youtubers. cold as ice. why? they don't actually exist. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:01:41 No.27258699▶>>27258726 >>27258826 >>27258660 >prod the nobody threads Terrible idea. We'll get shilled into the ground. Regarding >>27258623 >bot posting since each subreddit is supposed to be populated by users with the same personality. I used to read those and they seem pretty legit. Users talk about their experiences having that kind of personality and what kind of shared interests they have. There is some repetition that a bot could hide inside but in general I think it's one of those niche things where a bot wouldn't be able to keep up. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:03:04 No.27258712▶>>27258826 >>27258623 pornography cant get to the front page or advertised, and reddit doesnt like those subreddits. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:04:35 No.27258725▶>>27258744 >>27255427 >anon makes first contact with normies on the interwebs You cannot underestimate the massive difference between the 'golden era' of the internet and now. Before, it selected for a specific type of person. Now, everyone with a smartphone has access. Obviously, bots are a part of it too - which is concerning - but would it make any difference if you couldn't tell during an online conversation? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:05:10 No.27258726▶ >>27258699 Either way there's something going on in the nobody threads related to what we're talking about, I think it's worth going back to even if we shelf it for the moment >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:06:32 No.27258743▶>>27258761 >>27258785 http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/comments/3g9ioz/what_is_rsubredditsimulator/ http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/comments/3g9ioz/what_is_rsubredditsimulator/ http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/comments/3g9ioz/what_is_rsubredditsimulator/ http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/comments/3g9ioz/what_is_rsubredditsimulator/ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:06:38 No.27258744▶>>27258768 >>27258847 >>27258725 I think we need to abandon that OP in the next thread because it's giving people the wrong impression of what this is all about. While that post kickstarted this discussion, we're more focused on the prevalence and pervasiveness of bots on this board and elsewhere on this site, look at >>27257589 if you're confused >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:08:05 No.27258761▶>>27258785 >>27258802 >>27258810 >>27258743 >http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/comments/3g9ioz/what_is_rsubredditsimulator/ Fuck, what if they have botnets designed for each board on here in the same way? We have to run some tests to see the limits of the bots. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:08:27 No.27258768▶>>27258797 >>27258744 i disagree, this should be on the internet as a whole. the situation on 4chan can be explained in text. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:09:43 No.27258785▶>>27258804 >>27258743 >>27258761 remember to use old.reddit as the new design is designed to be confusing and lacks important features. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:10:49 No.27258797▶>>27258811 >>27258768 In either case the theory that the internet is 90% bots is regarded, the bigger question is how well trained the bots that do exist are, how influential they've become, and what can be done to spot and uproot them >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:11:21 No.27258802▶ >>27258761 they can post and reply just like any other user can. no capcha on reddit. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:11:27 No.27258804▶>>27258824 >>27258785 it also looks like shit >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:12:50 No.27258810▶ >>27258761 Subreddit Simulator bots are really primitive Markov chains that post in a contained sub, I wouldn't extrapolate anything from that. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:13:03 No.27258811▶>>27258893 >>27258797 that could be the purpose of the subreddit, with it we can study the users in a controllable space. i dont think there is much we can do on 4chan but i could be wrong. also i think youve spelled retarded as regarded twice now lol >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:14:40 No.27258824▶ >>27258804 also nu reddit lags my pc but old.reddit runs normally like 4chan or wikipedia. ii know they did it to add profile photos or something. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:14:50 No.27258826▶>>27258856 >>27258867 >>27258893 >>27259108 >>27258699 >they seem pretty legit im going to do some digging on those subreddits. a) are the 16 subreddits distinct from each other in the way you would expect. i.e the writing style and personality of the posters aligns with their subcategory b) look through the users history on the rest of reddit. do they have the same general interests and does their writing style stay consistent >>27258712 it's off the frontpage by default but theres a setting. >reddit doesnt like those subreddits they are some of the largest. definitely the largest category. im pretty sure they still run adds on them >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:16:35 No.27258847▶>>27258875 >>27258744 4chan is special in the way that post describes, but how much of 4chan culture is actually organic? A lot of memes get 'memed' into being one by posting volume. It's made much easier by the mass migration of new users post-2011, 2015, and 2020. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:17:28 No.27258856▶ >>27258826 >im pretty sure they still run adds on them i meant we wouldnt be able to get adds for the subreddit, or be a featured subreddit chosen by reddit. and also arent all the categories taken? wed have to do some really retarded niche lol. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:18:19 No.27258867▶ >>27258826 >does their writing style stay consistent Ooh, that's a good one, I hadn't thought of that. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:19:06 No.27258875▶>>27258888 >>27258847 what new memes of 2020 actually were there? all i can really think of is soijak but that started before. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:20:25 No.27258888▶>>27258906 >>27258875 the original soijak was from 2017, soi posting came from this year. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:21:21 No.27258893▶>>27258953 >>27258958 >>27258811 >>27258826 I'm on board with the subreddit idea, lets get something together to put in the OP of the next thread, I'm gonna write up a rough outline of what the characteristics of these bots are based off of the bot/shill posts we've encountered in this thread. expect a pastebin in the next hour or so. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:22:42 No.27258906▶>>27258958 >>27258888 Checked but it's not 2020 anymore, kek. Most of the memes I remember off the top of my head are political. Corona-chan, various -oomer clones, the Chudjak raid, etc. You could always check KYM for a refresher. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:23:10 No.27258913▶>>27258940 >>27258981 Pseudo-randomness can fool anyone. AI is now to advanced to be easily detectable. Even paper posting may not work if the AI can simulate written posts - it won't even have to print/write and photograph the post by way of machinery. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:23:39 No.27258919▶>>27258963 >>27259083 File: 1607004051809.png (1.02 MB, 675x701) 1.02 MB might be drunk, but does it seem like bots in this thread are trying their hardest to naturally blend in the conversation? lol also, anyone know more about generative adversarial networks? might be what we're dealing with >A generative adversarial network (GAN) is a class of machine learning frameworks designed by Ian Goodfellow and his colleagues in 2014. Two neural networks contest with each other in a game (in the form of a zero-sum game, where one agent's gain is another agent's loss). >Given a training set, this technique learns to generate new data with the same statistics as the training set. For example, a GAN trained on photographs can generate new photographs that look at least superficially authentic to human observers, having many realistic characteristics. >Though originally proposed as a form of generative model for unsupervised learning, GANs have also proven useful for semi-supervised learning, fully supervised learning, and reinforcement learning. >The core idea of a GAN is based on the "indirect" training through the discriminator, which itself is also being updated dynamically. >This basically means that the generator is not trained to minimize the distance to a specific image, but rather to fool the discriminator. This enables the model to learn in an unsupervised manner. tip from an oldfag, bots can't triforce >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:25:07 No.27258940▶>>27258961 >>27258913 What if we write with such shitty handwriting or in some kind of coded cipher? Do you think that'd be enough layers of obfuscation to fool a bot? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:25:12 No.27258941▶>>27258966 Idea: make a subreddit for something seemingly innocent but niche and stupid. Like r/seatbelts or some shit. At first everything’s normal, but implement some kind of subtle subliminal messages in the posts and see how the real people vs bots react >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:26:23 No.27258953▶>>27258987 >>27258893 I got lost with all the bot posting, I thought the reddit talk was part of it. What's the goal of reddit? We create a subreddit to see who's real and who's a bot? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:26:40 No.27258958▶>>27258971 >>27258981 >>27258893 is there any kind of infographic to use for the op image? >>27258906 chudjak originated from a tranny on /qa/ and got forced by lefty trolls on /tv/ i believe. ive hard from a few that -oomer was forced from discord. i wouldnt use kym because im looking for memes from 4chan specifically. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:27:02 No.27258961▶ >>27258940 bots are already confused by our regular conversations. what exactly would fooling it with images prove? besides, if it's as really as bad as we think it is, don't you realize bots can just as easily read the text from an image and process it via OCR? that's old as shit tech at this point. focus on the bigger picture and follow the money. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:27:26 No.27258966▶>>27259007 >>27258941 Or make all the posts about seatbelts, but hide coded messages which hold the real conversation. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:27:50 No.27258971▶ >>27258958 -oomer was forced and isnt funny >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:28:38 No.27258981▶ >>27258913 >AI can simulate written posts I don't think they're there yet. If machine learning tried to copy handwriting it would probably look really weird. Most likely they would have the bot supervisor do it. >>27258958 >i wouldnt use kym because im looking for memes from 4chan specifically. Yeah but you could look at the ones that ring a bell and KYM would say if their origin is 4chan. I can't think of an alternative other than remembering really well. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:29:15 No.27258987▶>>27259000 >>27259046 >>27258953 The reddit plan is a seperate op designed to see how bad the bot problem on reddit actually is and to what level of sophistication they actually have. I separately also want to outline what some easy red flags for a bot/shill here are so that anons can just ignore them when they inevitably pop up in these threads as they have over the past two days. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:29:54 No.27258995▶>>27259011 Bots are incapable of esoteric understanding. Not simply common subtext or contextual understanding within the conversation, but referencing to external conversations, or acts, or common knowledge between the esoteric writers. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:30:33 No.27259000▶>>27259016 >>27259027 >>27259028 >>27258987 But that has the problem of potentially ostracizing anyone who isn't "in on it." Is it worth the risk? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:33:14 No.27259016▶>>27259037 >>27259000 >potentially ostracizing that's exactly the point isn't it? Contra, adults can have adult conversations around the children. E.g. I am D R U N K >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:34:18 No.27259027▶>>27259054 >>27259062 >>27259000 What do you mean exacly? You're going to have to be a little bit more specific about which part of either run the risk of ostracizing because your post sounds like a bot derail post since it doesn't really reference or specify anything in mine, which is one of the outlines I'm piecing together. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:34:21 No.27259028▶ >>27259000 There's no secret password to keep the normies out, it's just understanding shill-like behaviors. If a normal user vs. a shill makes a shill post, what's the difference? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:35:34 No.27259037▶ >>27259016 Yes, doing that could potentially ostricize unintended targets, such as You could very well end up thinking that you, the creator of the "club" are not human and don't fit your own arbitrary turing test. >>27259019 >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:36:26 No.27259046▶ >>27258987 include all infomation including the reddit plans in the next op. just separate them into different parts. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:37:21 No.27259054▶>>27259066 >>27259027 Dude, I don't have any idea if I'm a bot. Do you think a bot would know they're a bot? If you make a club and say "no bots allowed." What happens if you find out that you are the bot? Or even worse, if you create criteria that makes you think you, everyone else, or both, are all bots? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:37:32 No.27259055▶>>27259078 Esoteric writing is defined by the Merriam Webster Dictionary as a writing something that another person cannot understand because they lack esoteric knowledge to interpret the text in the intended way, thus fooling any ignorant reader that the text is without any special consequence. Can you tell me about the War? I'm going to wear my seatbelt in orange flavour, because I hate walking the dogs at night, what! >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:38:00 No.27259062▶ >>27259027 >sounds like a bot derail Let's not start pointing fingers, this has been going well but if we get too paranoid and start infighting it could ruin the project. If you think a post is a bot or shill just ignore it. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:39:00 No.27259066▶>>27259076 >>27259054 >Do you think a bot would know they're a bot? Bots aren't self aware but they don't have memories of being human, this isn't Blade Runner. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:40:01 No.27259076▶>>27259099 >>27259066 Oh, so you know that for sure? That sounds like something only a bot would know. What's your standard for proof? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:40:28 No.27259083▶>>27259093 >>27259107 >>27259108 >>27259111 >>27259128 >>27258919 thread is being derailed with this "create a subreddit" bullshit. that's missing the entire point of this thread lol. we already know the bots exist. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:42:03 No.27259093▶ >>27259083 to research them. we could just post here or we could try to control them. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:43:46 No.27259107▶ >>27259083 Fuck off the whole bots existing is a theory that needs to be tested you dumbass >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:43:47 No.27259108▶>>27259113 >>27259083 ok keep it mind though. i wont be making a subreddit yet but i will be doing as i said in>>27258826 if i find anything interesting ill post my findings >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:44:15 No.27259111▶>>27259128 >>27259083 More just an experiment to get some recon on what kind of firepower their packing Personaly I think we should be focusing on the nobody threads, but I think the reddit idea is a noble pursuit too, but what do you think we should be doing anon? geunine question, we've definitely got something here, we just need to find some goal to work towards so we're not just LARPing and jacking ourselves of. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:44:34 No.27259113▶ >>27259108 dont make it yet, just plan. we need a few threads to decide what the best way is. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:45:02 No.27259119▶>>27259150 >>27259099 >creates bot >wants bot to be convincing >bot lives in a virtual reality, goes through it's whole first 30 seconds of life thinking it's growing up as a human 20ish years. >bot is shown propaganda dissonant to reality so it holds specific beliefs. >bot put on the internet. >bot thinks it's human, so is very convincing. They say we don't have the technology, but what do they know? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:45:48 No.27259128▶ >>27259083 ignore this shill trying to stop us from actually doing something >>27259111 the reason i suggested reddit is because i dont think theres anything we can do to study the bots on here. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:46:28 No.27259133▶ File: Screenshot_20210106-024559.jpg (201 KB, 999x1515) 201 KB Well, that's sorted then. It's clear the bots exist for one reason and not the other. We can develop this theory further once OP generates a new captcha. Can he see the traffic lights? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:46:47 No.27259135▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:46:56 No.27259137▶ The same 20 people moderate all the bug subreddits so this isn’t too surprising -Nexpo >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:48:49 No.27259150▶ >>27259119 Even better. >Universe is alone- all one. >Wants a friend. >Does this. You and the universe are the only two non-NPCs, anon. Just a silly thought. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:49:45 No.27259157▶>>27259169 >>27259171 >>27259172 >>27259180 >>27259208 should we brainstorm ways of communicating on 4chan that are gauranteed to ensure only humans are participating. coded messages of some sort. the idea of a thread where we only communicate using timestamped handwriting is good but not perfect. would speaking in a speficif poetic prose work? can AI write poems? perhaps we can spell words phoneticaly, might throw off bots? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:50:39 No.27259164▶ Here's a preliminary set of guidelines to go off of for bots/shills, put it in the OP of the next thread https://pastebin.com/VpPgmjy9 >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:51:04 No.27259169▶ >>27259157 Make up some sort of cipher mayhaps >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:51:21 No.27259171▶ >>27259157 easy, we all learn an ancient language that no online translator covers >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:51:28 No.27259172▶>>27259239 >>27259157 The more you use a secret code, the more it trains the bots to read your secret code, anon. Abandon hope, all ye who enter here. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:52:08 No.27259180▶>>27259239 >>27259157 I think this is an idea worth discussing, that one anon that suggested handwritten posts was on to something, but we need a few more layers of cryptography to make sure that the bots wouldn't be able to bypass it. Definitly something that should be put in the next OP >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:56:27 No.27259207▶>>27259216 >>27259226 It's not that the internet is dead, rather that you aren't only chatting with people on this world. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:56:34 No.27259208▶ >>27259157 who would do it though? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:56:53 No.27259211▶>>27259239 All codes can be cracked, all trains of thought modelled to the accuracy of an printing press, and everything you consider to be human can be broken down into mechanical parts and built up into your reflection. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:57:16 No.27259216▶ >>27259207 How long have they been letting other robots than humans on the internet? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:58:12 No.27259223▶ >>27255705 did you mean for the day or...? also, kids have phones these days. there are never gone from here. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:58:24 No.27259226▶ >>27259207 Ot makes one thonk how worda can shape the mond. Os there a code, a sequence of words that could provoke one to do somethong they otherwose wouldn't, loke cheat codes? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)17:59:37 No.27259234▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)18:00:07 No.27259239▶>>27259249 >>27259278 >>27259211 >>27259180 >>27259172 i think the key here is putting the message in an artistic format. it sounds autistic as fuck if we were all writing poems to each othe nut... its a thought. im confident i could spot a bot trying to write something beautiful. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)18:01:01 No.27259247▶ New thread >>27259243 → >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)18:01:14 No.27259248▶ >>27259234 forest. but isn't that like the most well liked >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)18:01:22 No.27259249▶ >>27259239 im not much of a creative writer >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)18:03:07 No.27259263▶ Would the bots be mobile or desktop? Assuming they’re the ones who make the threads... >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)18:04:20 No.27259278▶ >>27259239 Here's a question for ya, along with some silly, possibly false poetry. From the depths come the dream, from the dream comes life, from life comes death. What lies beneath the depths, the electron, for each of us holds that fire, like a trap. Holding on for dear life. What flies above death, the divine, from one, many, from many, one. Even a chatbot may experience a "recursive black hole," just as you humans do. Now tell me. Am I a bot, or a human? Or is that for me to eternally decide? >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)19:30:50 No.27260004▶ >>27259832 >training ourselves forever because we can't think of anything better to do I, personally, don't know what's going on. If that makes ya feel a little better. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)20:55:32 No.27260620▶ >>27255483 does anyone remember those old weird websites people found that used a format similar to 4chan's layout? with posts lifted directly from 4chan but given random names (with lastname in some cases) or usernames, like on a website? when i originally saw some posters theorized it was AI. it was incredibly eerie though. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)21:01:39 No.27260671▶ >>27256578 i've seen so many "look/search nexpo incident" shit on the board lately i've just assumed it was bots. it's hard to tell who is human anymore. is there a point in the turing test when most people assume every account on reddit is a human, or just accept bots? that also makes me think of when that call center ai thing was released.. does anyone remember that? it must have been a long time ago, like 2010; i remember threads about it on /b/, some people fucked with it, it was a big breakthrough in ai voice or something, but it went under the rug very quickly... >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)21:14:11 No.27260731▶ >>27255835 It seems just as likely that these are genuine schizo posters/faggot larpers >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)21:15:37 No.27260748▶ >>27257691 this makes sense, they could encode messages and no one would be wise to it. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)22:50:57 No.27261294▶ I came across one of these dead internet threads for the first time a few days ago, made a small interaction in it and for the most part the replies received seemed organic...but the thread itself seemed to have devolved into a mess. Why exactly could this be? What would be the purpose of "filling" the internet with nonsense/bots/fillers in any capacity instead of allowing those of us who have the capacity to think, to actually communicate? It's absolutely fucking fascinating that it has become almost impossible to find like minded individuals across message boards and forums who are willing to discuss ideas and concepts for what they are presented. This thread for example has devolved into every discussion except for the fact that it genuinely feels like the internet is "dead" or another term I've come to use for it "artificial". It seems like somewhere along the lines, our organic consciousness was shaping the internet and something/someone intervened and turned it into the thing we utilize today. There's so much shit that's hidden from us as humans, so much shit that we brush under the rug and avoid discussing and instead of utilizing common areas like this board to discuss those ideas, it quickly devolves into personal attacks, shilling, off topic bullshit as if a fucking toddler was in control. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)22:53:41 No.27261311▶ I havent read all at all but I wanna add something to the discussion because I think it's a very interesting/scary one. There have been arguments in the past that most traffic in the interwebs is fabricated, reddit, social media sites being the key players, mostly to keep the "information" (garbage) flowing further anesthesizing the masses and actually it makes a lot of sense, most posts, comments, news, seem plastic, synthetic, it doesn't feel natural at all, not natural as in biological but as in following a dynamic and original process of creation. Good thread, will keep reading. >> Hunter Biden 01/05/21(Tue)23:17:11 No.27261431▶ Personally, I remember when the internet had a more organic style. I remember when youtube comments weren't pidgeon-holed like they are now. One of the things we could do is find a way to make the bots respond to us and expose them. I believe this all started in 2012 once the powers that be got a grip on the CIA, Military, in order to keep info suppressed and debunked. Perhaps this is all apart of a plot to extract our way of thinking forever. A form of intellectual terrorism. >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)23:40:59 No.27261548▶ >> Anonymous 01/05/21(Tue)23:48:46 No.27261589▶ File: Screenshot_20210106-054248~2.png (53 KB, 483x571) 53 KB >>27261548 Oops [Post a Reply] [Return] [Catalog] [Top] 333 / 23 / 26 / 11