Matthewww85 I've been searching for veterinarian textbooks on great apes. They don't really exists, I've only been able to find a single one that isn't even really about great apes, just intestinal parasites that are supposed to infect them. Also, this whole great ape personhood thing is to destroy the idea of the inalienable God given natural rights of Men and Women. ===== file from Nov 2019 recovered Jan 2021