Sega Dimension retrieved Jan 2021 ================== https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25584016/ >> Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 05:59:27 No.25601362 Sometimes Dreamcast graphics make me feel something ineffable, beyond simple nostalgia. Another anon started a thread with a similar theme the other day about the "Sega Dimension". ===== >> The Sega Dimension Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:16:38 No.25584016 Replies: 85 I was hit hard by Covid and have been unemployed, stuck at home, etc… for four months now. I've taken to drinking heavily every day, bored and at a loss for finding stuff to do. I was supposed to have a tech job lined up so I bought a high end laptop to accommodate but that fell through so… I decided to take up emulation, remembering before college when I had time for video games. Played some Gamecube and whatnot. Remembered how I was a HUGE Dreamcast fan. I hadn't played since 2003? I downloaded the ROMs for PSO, Power Stone 2, Grandia 2. I had an overwhelming weird feeling that these games sort of “don't belong,” if that makes sense. Like, the Dreamcast was a system that did things and had games that just don't fit in the profile of gaming. Ever since I've been playing these ROMs, I've had VIVID dreams. They seem to take place in a different dimension. This dimension is one where Sega “won” the rivalry against Nintendo in the 90s. It's hard to explain but Sega is the main competitor in console gaming and its IPs are more predominant in pop culture. For example, PSO is the ubiquitous MMO instead of WoW. The Dreamcast has a 2nd and 3rd iteration in the current gen and battles against Sony for sales. Nintendo dropped out long ago and Mario has 3rd party games. It is all seemingly innocuous but strangely disturbing? Beyond the Sega stuff, the world is way different. 9/11 never happened and Obama was never president. W. Bush lasted 1 term and was replaced by someone I don't know.The current pres is a Republican named Chris MacPherson, a Rep of Maryland (as far as I can tell, this person doesn'tt actually exist.) Iit seems like he makes most of the populace happy. Society is similar but different. Covid never happened and the world is more technologically advanced. I have been waking up in a sweat, usually with a headache, and feeling like I'm a different person. Anyone else experiencing this shit? Ask me anything, I guess? --- Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:35:04 No.25584228 >>25584016 There are people out there who live out entire lives in other physical bodies in other worlds every single Time they go to sleep. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:51:03 No.25585407 >>25584016 About a week ago I was thinking Dreamcast winning the sixth generation console war would be an interesting premise to work off for a short story or novel. I was thinking that the world would have ended up much friendlier and full of wonder, how is it really OP? Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:53:13 No.25585423 >>25585407 it is generally weird and strangely comforting. I don't really know how to describe it from a superficial level. I'm in my 30s so I don't know how to go "The world is happier with Sonic leading the way instead of Mario" but my brain feels... warmer? when I experience it. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:57:41 No.25585461 did all the planned shenmue games come out and are they universally acclaimed? Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:00:06 No.25585490 >>25585461 this is an excellent question. Since I didn't play Shenmue, I don't have an answer. Maybe I'll focus on this when I go back. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:04:31 No.25585538 >>25585490 please do, I'm the same guy that was thinking about the sega dimension about a week ago. Strangely enough this topic made me remember having a vivid dream about owning a PS2 in like 2001-2002 before I had one. It was weird, I had a dreamcast at the time but in the dream it seemed like owning PS2 would be like `having a dream come true`. I don't know what to make of all this but it's interesting. Now I will dump some related images and maybe someone else will bite. Thank you for sharing OP I hope you can discover more about this alternate dimension and find a way to bring others to it. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:10:09 No.25585593 >>25585538 It's weird to say but its so far been an exploration of if that "end of the 90s" aesthetic persisted into the world culture. These images are enlightening for sure but I specifically remember people in the dreams with bleached hair, baggy clothes, etc... but in modern times. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:13:17 No.25585635 >>25584016 Sounds awesome, I'd love to live in that world Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:18:29 No.25585683 >>25585557 tlou2 gave me no interest. Why do we need depressing games? Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:19:10 No.25585693 >>25585593 That's what I was thinking the world would be like. Beyond that I was hoping that the sort of community engagement seen here >>25585566 would still exist and with that, seeing as 9/11 doesn't happen, we wouldn't end up with the ironic and disingenuous sort of culture we saw grow out of the post-9/11 America. I'd like to hear more of your thoughts on how the games themselves "don't belong". And to make this paranormal, do you think we are actually psychically sensing fractals of a particularly powerful alternate timeline. Ripples of the Mandela Effect perhaps. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:22:53 No.25585725 Report >>25585693 >I'd like to hear more of your thoughts on how the games themselves "don't belong". I don't know how to give much more detail than it's just a weird feeling playing them. It's a combination of graphic, music, and gameplay that hits in a way that disturbs my sense of uncanny valley. Maybe people can relate? I don't have a much better way to explain it other than thinking to myself "this isn't how game are." Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:24:06 No.25585739 Report Quoted By: >>25585787 >>25584016 Do you feel something when you look at images with the "Y2K aesthetic" in general? If so, I think we're coming from a similar place. I believe it has a lot to do with the general cultural optimism + futurism, if not innocence (by comparison), of the pre-9/11 era. The Dreamcast strongly evokes that period in general for me, maybe more than any other tangible item could in the present day. It's a potent synecdoche of everything else that was going on back then too, and it reminds us of those lost futures that never came to be. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:28:08 No.25585787 Quoted By: >>25591362 >>25585739 I was bullied and had no friends around the Y2K times, so I honestly have no love for the aesthetic. However, I would agree that there is a psychological optimism/benevolence to the Dreamcast in its relation to a pre-9/11 world. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:01:55 No.25586149 Quoted By: >>25586190 >>25584016 Was this dimension as socially woke as this dimension? What were the Sonic games like? Were they as expansive as Mario 64, like Sonic Utopia but with branching acts/zones? Did the Arcades survive? Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:06:14 No.25586190 Quoted By: >>25592760 >>25586149 Can't speak specifically on the wokeness but I'll say the "wound-upped-ness" of society is much more relaxed. People are ust generally more friendly/accepting of strangers. Sonic games are more 2D focused, like they realized Sonic was a game about being speedy. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 still exist but the game afterward are much more of a departure. Arcades DO survive! But they are pretty specifically fighting/racing/dancing focused. SEGA has a hand in a lot of this. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 21:48:57 No.25587002 Report Quoted By: >>25590522 >>25584016 Might you be a natural lucid dreamer? Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 22:10:09 No.25587131 Report Quoted By: >>25590522 >>25584016 Are there any different tragedies/wars/big world events you know of from this alternate timeline? If this isn't just vivid dreaming I get that vidya could be like a 'dimensional anchor' for you but if your awareness has spread out from there, what else have you seen? Share some stories. Just everyday stuff is fine. Little things that seem to matter. I want to feel nostalgia for a place that I have never been. >>25587029 Piss off zoomer scum, enjoy dying in Russia if Biden wins. >>25587071 Truest shit I've read all day about Covid. Dark days ahead. Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 22:56:27 No.25587443 Report >>25584016 When you drink you don't get rem sleep for the first half of your sleep till you sober up then at then end you have all the rem you were supposed to had the night all at once and have super crazy dreams Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 01:30:21 No.25588375 Report >>25584016 this is amazing OP, thanks for the post. i appreciate how you articulated this. makes you wonder. might unconscious objects--and by extension, games, i guess--have some conscious effect on reality? of course, 90% of people would tell you it's just your brain producing a surprisingly realistic dream, for all sorts of reasons. but even then, no one knows what dreams truly are. it's all very weird, and I can understand where you're coming from. i'm jealous of how vividly you dream, by the way. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 01:45:26 No.25588463 Report Quoted By: >>25590522 Its just too much gaming op. I had the same weird dreams when red dead redemption came out. I was playing every chance I got. When i would go to sleep all I would dream about is the game. Every now and then when a random person says hi ill respond with howdy or mister. I have my license to carry a firearm and I'm surprised I haven't smoked someone yet. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 07:23:31 No.25590522 Report >>25587002 To my knowledge no and if I am, this will have been the first instance of it happening. My dreams have always been VERY abstract, if at all memorable. I had your standard fare of dreams when I was teen: sex dreams, dreams of being naked at school, dreams of not graduating, etc... but I started smoking weed when I was 19 and it all but eliminated my sense of dreaming, even when I quit. >>25587029 Wow he can count. >>25587131 >Are there any different tragedies/wars/big world events you know of from this alternate timeline? Al Qaeda still exists and is in the news, despite there being no 9/11. I'm not sure if the attacks on WtC were prevented or were just never planned. The news' approach to reporting terrorism is different and more microfocused. For example, the IRA killed 11 people with a car bomb and it was reported for weeks as a worldwide tragedy. >>25588463 I figured this but I'm pretty impressed my brain can come up with all of this on its own. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 07:42:38 No.25590674 After pso2 I dont want to live in a Sega dimension Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 08:01:35 No.25590835 >>25588359 >The original Shenmue was the most expensive video game ever developed at the time, with an estimated production and marketing cost of US$47 to $70 million, though some of the development also covered Shenmue II. Despite attracting positive reviews and a cult following, the games were commercial failures and further installments entered development hell. i think they were initially planning 7 games. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 08:31:03 No.25591060 Report >>25584016 I'm like you, i played hundreds of hours of PSO back in the day. Also, jet set radio, skies of Arcadia, Shenmue. Dreamcast should have won, better games, sooner than PS2. Even better hardware since more RAM than PS2 so games were less aliased. Cheaper, and also native modem. But PS2 marketing won. In your dream reality however, the Deep State is most likely still there, and the survaillance society as well. Economical crisis must happen likely, due to the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 09:07:48 No.25591362 Report Quoted By: >>25593587 >>25593897 >>25585787 Same here. Dreamcast was really this, escapism. >However, I would agree that there is a psychological optimism/benevolence to the Dreamcast in its relation to a pre-9/11 world. The 90s were peak illuminati. They had total control of the society, there was no internet, P2P opposition, and they operated almost completely in the shadow. Except some nutjobs (which were extralucid schizo in retrospect), and soft disclosure with X-files, the 90s were also peak mainstrem, normie society. Honestly i prefer now, because thanks to the internet, i can interact with people who think more or less like me, and search for interesting books, whose i wouldn't even know about in pre-internet era. If you want a taste of the 90s, easy, go interact with normies. It's this, but without the possibility of escaping, even on internet boards, interacting with people who think differently. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 09:56:13 No.25591761 >>25591691 definitely not me. i don't think I've even thought about CERN since like 2012. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 09:59:37 No.25591798 Well, friendly reminder dear anons, as you might have noticed, the mario serie is actually full with masonic shit and as we see right now, there is a lot of deep state fuckery going on in this world, or timeline. We also know about CERN fucking things up. SOoooo it might be true, we are in the masonic devil world of nintendo. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 10:02:19 No.25591829 >>25591798 ok, at first I'm rolling my eyes at shit like this but, thinking about it, a lot of Sega games are focused on rebellions to the status quo. Jet Grind, Crazy Taxi, even modern sonic. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 10:53:49 No.25592416 I woke up today thinking this was kind of stupid, but then I remembered the weird commercials for dreamcast and taking a look at them is pretty hair raising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XVA0qrHWg >commercial airliner striking a wireless antenna >Little world inside of the dreamcast accessible through the power button >Sega Dreamcast: It's thinking Also it's called the DREAMcast. Also it's not all just a dream. also look into the numerological significance of the number nine. Dreamcast released 9.9.99 >All higher numbers can be reduced to one of the original ten numerals, and the 10 itself to 1. Therefore, all groups of numbers resulting from the translation of names of deities into their numerical equivalents have a basis in one of the first ten numbers. By this system, in which the digits are added together, 666 becomes 6+6+6 or 18, and this, in turn, becomes 1+8 or 9. According to Revelation, 144,000 are to be saved. This number becomes 1+4+4+0+0+0, which equals 9, thus proving that both the Beast of Babylon and the number of the saved refer to man himself, whose symbol is the number 9. This system can be used successfully with both Greek and Hebrew letter values. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:02:18 No.25592492 >>25584016 I never played SEGA games, I used to be all for nintendo up until the N64 when it came out and it was low res crap, I had already bought a PSX (yes the first grey playstation was called PSX) and the games were just better and higher resolution even if it didn't have anti aliasing. Seeing how nintendo's main competitor SEGA was suddenly just gone was weird. If you want to be occult about it, I'd say it has to do with how the first PlayStation still had platformers and RPGs because developers thought like it was 2D still. With the PS2, the FPS style of games took over and this streamlined games to be first person, in all gametypes, which killed the fun and made all games the same. The real reason behind this goes back to the first shooters, Wolfenstein and Doom. This info has been wiped from awareness and records, but it used to be on the wikipedia article for iD software how they were started, and funded, by the US army to produce war simulation training programs. The reason for this was studies showing soldiers during the world wars rarely fired on the enemy when ordered to, it was as low as 17% of the time. To fix this they came up with training based on repetitions in realistic simulations to desensitize soldiers and get rid of their natural resistance to killing. This was very effective and as we've seen, the Columbine shooters were FPS nerds, Breivik intentionally practiced his terror attack by playing FPS games. The Christchurch shooter streamed his acts to make it look like a game to further spread this conditioning. Of course they don't want this to get out now. Video games ARE responsible for mass shootings, they're made for it. People are conditioning themselves into perfect soldiers using simulations originally developed by the army. This is the influence of the war industry at work. Also note that "id" refers to Jung's psyho analysis, which is based on jewish kabbalah. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:11:00 No.25592570 Report >>25592492 under this assumption, is it safe to say that Sega's propensity for making games about "rebels" on purpose to counter the games that have taken over the status quo? Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:26:45 No.25592736 Report >>25592492 Very good post, nothing to add other than the fact it has positive benefits as well. Hand eye coordination for surgeons till some kid that learned to Feign death IRL from WoW. It's not unthinkable to have integrated class lessons with VR as described in Ready Player One. As a software developer I just want to stand guard for corruption and freemason infiltration through open source material. It disgusts me that almost every office has a fat neckbeard cultist as designer that throws his cuck symbolism in everyday designs and developers are framed or extorted as our numbers are already limited. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:37:57 No.25592873 Report Quoted By: >>25593244 >>25592850 SEGA cast a spell to create a dream, and we live in a jewish timeline, but that should be obvious to anyone with any basic bible knowledge. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:38:19 No.25592878 Report >>25592825 >>25592825 I hate the nintendo dimesnion Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 12:09:57 No.25593244 Report Quoted By: >>25593846 >>25592873 They cast a spell in which they fell to obscurity? How, why? >that should be obvious to anyone with any basic bible knowledge That SEGA/CERN would push us into this timeline? What do you mean? Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 12:26:26 No.25593400 Report >>25592492 id >the part of the mind in which innate instinctive impulses and primary processes are manifest. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 12:45:22 No.25593587 Report Quoted By: >>25594067 >>25591362 >There was no internet in the 90s This is what zoomers actually believe Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 13:10:50 No.25593846 Report >>25593244 I think they are implying Sega used vidya to cast a spell that gives people dreams of an alternate reality, one free of jewish rule??? Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 13:16:46 No.25593897 Report Quoted By: >>25594067 >>25591362 >If you want a taste of the 90s, easy, go interact with normies. If you want to experience real 90s internet, you have to look at actual relics from that time, like http://www.darkharbor.com/noriko/ http://www.darkharbor.com/noriko/hyperpolice/ Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 13:36:39 No.25594067 Report Quoted By: >>25594073 >>25594262 >>25593587 >>25593897 There was no internet in the 90s. All there was was shitty forum with low activities, pages which took 40 seconds to download if you were lucky, constant disconnect, and people reciting on the internet what was told on the mainstream medias. Maybe there was some underground stuff, like particular ICQ group chats, or usenet, but i was in my early teen, and just got to learn how all this worked. I didn't get from the first normie forums to more underground stuff in a few month. So if you were a nerd, growing with computers, perhaps, there was a cool internet for you, special ICQ goups, usenet, but my experience wasn't like this. I maintain everybody had very normies view compared to today, when even some youtube comments have red pills in them. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 13:57:56 No.25594262 Report Quoted By: >>25594300 >>25595271 >>25594067 >There was no internet in the 90s The internet was only good in the 90s. Whatever happened after that is unrecognizable normalfag shit. There are a few places which has maintained something of the original culture, but 4chan is just lost. People like you are the reason for this. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 14:02:21 No.25594300 Report >>25594262 Here's an ftp which has survived since, this is where you had to get your cute anime girls back then https://ftp.sunet.se/mirror/archive/ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/anime-manga/ Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 14:05:26 No.25594330 Report As you can see on the files right there, some of them are from 1989. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 14:52:26 No.25594743 Report Quoted By: >>25594750 >>25584016 Idk about the second half OP (although interesting) , But I bought a Dreamcast around winter of 2015, Played through some PSO and D2 and I can say they have a different almost "other worldly" or "Mesmerizing" atmosphere while playing, sort of like they were from a different timeline. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 15:51:13 No.25595271 Report Quoted By: >>25596346 >>25594262 Well fuck you, i'm a pioneer of MMORPGs, the darknets, and P2P. I should know, it paid the price for it you motherfucker. Sorry for not having been a part of the very first geocities forums. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 17:36:03 No.25596317 Report We all agree something is wrong with this timeline. 9/11 is the singularity, Dreamcast is on the other side of the event horizon. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 17:40:35 No.25596346 Report Quoted By: >>25597598 >>25595271 This redpilling stuff is part of the problem. The internet used to be about the internet. About the free flow of information, of sharing because you wanted everyone to have access to everything you had. A file on a computer can be copied endlessly at not cost while a book or CD has to be printed. The possibilities of technology. What happened in the 00s was that people came online to make money, to shill politics and to ban things they didn't like. Such as - yeah that's right - the free flow of information. Can't have people copying files freely and given them to someone, can we, that may change the world for something better. And that's how the modern internet was created with ads, egocentric blogging and censorship. Dumb people who don't belong here ruined it by bringing real life drama online. >redpilling is a band aid used to hide the cancer which is killing the entire body. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 19:51:42 No.25597598 Report >>25596346 I don't disagree but you aren't providing a solution either - unfortunately, we have no representation in government, and big tech is incestuous with the government and they don't give a fuck what you think. There's a reason these big tech companies often make decisions that cost them massive amounts of money, and it's not because they're stupid. Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 19:57:30 No.25597658 Report Quoted By: >>25597972 >>25592416 Can you connect this with Skyrim and Minecraft releasing on 11.11.11 >and how they were both key in the Death of Gaming Anonymous Mon 20 Jul 2020 20:34:58 No.25597972 Report >>25597658 >Death of Gaming I take it you mean those 2 games killed the gaming sphere? ===== picked the best posts and images