>> Anonymous 08/16/20(Sun)15:02:52 No.25880280▶>>25880295 >>25881572 >>25881762 >>25881960 >>25885260 >>25885291 >>25874394 Why are cartels so violent? Most organized crime (mafia, the triad, etc.) seems to prefer quiet operations, not these horror shows. >> Anonymous 08/16/20(Sun)15:06:02 No.25880295▶>>25881960 >>25888538 >>25880280 It comes from the entities their culture worships. Theres a long history of violence and gore, in order to appease.. something. Anonymous 08/16/20(Sun)17:43:25 No.25881572▶ >>25880280 In pre-colonial times, native Mesoamericans killed their enemies in the most painful way possible. Their descendants don't forget this Anonymous 08/16/20(Sun)18:06:29 No.25881762▶>>25881979 >>25882084 >>25883746 >>25880280 They use horror and fear as a weapon, meanwhile they give gifts to poor villages, so people both fear and love them. That way they can get as many soldiers and collaborators as they want. Also, they don't need to keep shut, since they aren't affecting their own business. You see, their money doesn't come from Mexico or Central America, where they operate. Their money comes from the US, where they quietly sell their stuff. The thirdworld is just their battleground to gain the highways to the US, and so they don't even bother on hidding it (also, they are richer than goverment and stronger than cops). That's their difference with other mafias, like the Yakuza. The Yakuza work in Japan, so they don't fuck thing up that much to not ruin their business. That why cartels, although they have pressence in the US, they don't do that fucked up shit in there, because that would affect their income. TLDR: They fuck up their countries because that's not where they get their money; meanwhile they keep quiet in the places where they do sell their stuff. Anonymous 08/16/20(Sun)18:27:57 No.25881960▶>>25881979 >>25882084 >>25883746 >>25880280 Crime is other countries has to be more quiet and hush about it because those countries have a capeable force that can stop their illegal activities. When it comes to Latin cartels, like the ones in mexico, they are more capeable of doing things more aggressively and out in the open. Main reason for that is they have money, power and influence which outweighs both the country's enforcement but external ones too. In countries like mexico, cartel members fear vigilantes and people from other cartels more than the law enforcement. Kinda makes you wonder how much power these fuckers have. >>25880295 Wrong. Their actions come from people being drunk with their own power knowing full well they could get away with it. If people were more susceptible to their religions and cultures which involve killings, you'd see Catholics crusading the middle east again. Cartel members that kill in those dismembering videos are usually psychopaths. Seriously, a normal person will not stomach the idea of slowly mutilating another human being, it takes someone with a heart of fucking rock to do these things and the ones who can do it and be proud of it are totally insane. Most of the time they lie to themselves and call it a service to their gang but that's just a facade. Anonymous 08/16/20(Sun)20:49:58 No.25883114▶>>25883142 >>25883461 File: hotmouth.jpg (264 KB, 631x800) 264 KB >>25882142 did you forget to remove your tripcode >>25882326 >>25882378 you are probably right in that regard. i've seen some ideas where people would legalize drugs only for helping wean addicts off i.e. like switzerland and giving free, limited heroin to drug addicts, in order to effectively stop the consumer base and starve the cartels out. they also mentioned stuff like actual, proper drug education (not just saying "oh its all bad for you" and actively focusing on the bad ones instead of spending trillions on shit like marijuana/locking up smalltime addicts to essentially doom them for life. i agree with those solutions, but it fills me with much, much rage to see such acts of violence go unpunished. why not round them up? round up all suspected cartel members, and if hard evidence (i.e. footage and testimony) exists of their crimes, either kill them right there or lock them up forever. i realise that many of them feel like they have no choice, and i feel bad for them, but at the same time, they literally chopped the lad's legs and arms off. it's one thing if they've been in a few shootouts, another to willingly commit such an atrocity. apologizes for wall of text i just am peeved at the fact that humanity can do this over what amounts to dopamine fixes. >>25880770 latin america's governments and educational/moral systems have been fucked for decades, now. especially since some countries actively sabotaged their democracies and/or helped set up fucked up systems in the first place. venezuela was pretty nice until socialism. >> Anonymous 08/17/20(Mon)02:34:19 No.25885260▶ >>25880280 Because it's latent Mesoamerican ritual killings to appease the gods, but done through modern cult interpretations of the grim reaper. Anonymous 08/17/20(Mon)06:06:26 No.25886094▶>>25887524 >>25888081 File: 1580569601084.gif (979 KB, 400x199) 979 KB >>25881373 Other cartels are unironically the army that go, capture and torture the "other" cartels. It's all a point of view from the angle of the soul. The guy you see chopping a dude into pieces? He probably had his whole family slaughtered by the other cartel and he is so angry and mad, sad and in inner turmoil, he can't even think straight. The only thing he knows is suffering and revenge. And he goes, captures and chops a rival dude up. But That rival dude has a little brother who got chocolate from his big bro every day. Now that little brother is grown up, angry as hell and willing to kill and torture the other cartels to revenge his dead brother. Don't go around judging, fir it is not yours to judge. To speak so lightly of another human's suffering and condition is the sign of a banished mind and an unaligned soul. Who knows how much the dude suffered beforehand, maybe he had his wife and kids killed, his family, everyone he knew, before he snapped and went on an insane gore spree. The truth is, All reality is suffering and pain. If not always yours, the necessarily on another's expense. Always and that's not a negotiation. All life is consumption and change and that's absolutely never a good thing. Change is ugly and consumption is death. If not yours, then another's, and ultimately yours too. The one thing we're all in debt with is at last 1 suffering and 1 death. Don't go around throwing judgement upon them. You'd be surprised the wickedness of those others that you deem innocent and pure >Truly, I say to you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the kingdom of God before you Guess who the "tax collectors" are in this case? >> Anonymous 08/17/20(Mon)11:22:41 No.25888261▶>>25888334 >>25889110 >>25888219 they purchase US weapons either through the black market or through proxy gun runners. and they earn their money in the US. that's why that other anon mentioned how they don't really act super violent in the US. that's their consumer base, the rest is their battleground, so they can be overt in mexico and latin america. like i said earlier, the best idea would be to fix the drug problem in the US (besides just criminalizing it and throwing them into jail because that helps no one and worsens the prison issue). then they could be destroyed afterwards, after being starved of customers then again there is always the fact that rich people might profit off this and not want it to stop. >> Anonymous 08/17/20(Mon)11:34:23 No.25888334▶>>25889159 >>25888261 Now thats a better take, yes the Mexican goverment its as corrupt as it gets, but my main beef was that failing to recognize the US is to blame as well doesnt help the issue, i see now that you do and yes, cutting off their income sources would be a nice idea but like you said who knows how many rich and powerful have a monetary interest on it and will do everything on their power so that doesnt happen, cause for people like them its always " fuck the poor people suffering i need me my millions" > Anonymous 08/17/20(Mon)13:01:56 No.25889110▶>>25889159 >>25888261 >they purchase US weapons either through the black market or through proxy gun runners Are you going to forget Operation Fast & Furious? that one where border patrol was redirected to a bogus route by presidential order so a ton of black trucks filled with high powered weapons could quietly transfer that to flatbeds in the middle of the fucking border wall? Ever wondered why even the small cartel sides have .50 caliber Barret rifles? or armor piercing federal ammunition? or M249s? or brand new black SCAR rifles made for the marines? Anonymous 08/17/20(Mon)13:15:06 No.25889264▶ >>25889159 >it seems that first world countries don't want to help. Even if they did want to, and some do, the US is the biggest cartel of them all. Drugs are the third biggest economy is the country that is/was the superpower, of course the gov would like to have a slice in it. Whoever meddles with it gets the rope, Cambodia did, Afghanistan did, Iran did. First world countries simply step aside to avoid political conflict with the US and their drug-fiend citizens.